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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:34 PM PST 

An excellent article by an excellent writer, Arundhati Roy.

http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IV

"...We're standing at a fork in the road. One sign says Justice, the other Civil War. There's no third sign and there's no going back. Choose."

Observer replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 06:30 PM PST 

I did read it earlier and its an eye opener for our mullahs and hindu extremists.

AKHTAR replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 07:00 PM PST 

Every body is talking about the "MULLAHS"?

I have only 1 question from all of this forum viewer?

In your life time period how many time you announce mornning "AZAN"

If you did you can criticised to the mullahs.

limo replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 09:15 PM PST 

Right Akhtar, let me also add that, did any MUllah ever ask anyone not to offer regular prayers,not to pay zakat, not to perform haj , not to keep fasting?.Surely the answer is a big NO.Then why is it that today we being muslims are unable to fulfill our basic religious obligations?Offcourse Mullah is not the culprit here.We need to honestly ask ourselves before pointing fingures on Mullahs.

Observer replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 09:42 PM PST 

@ limo

I suppose we in Pakistan offer more prayers than anywhere else in world, we perform haj, we also fast so why you think is pakistan in its current state?

Ahmed replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:56 AM PST 

Answers to all or your questions is that we have Fake ID's.

Azher syed, Manchester replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 03:23 AM PST 

At last we have come accross an Intellectual in India who has the courage to call a spade a spade. For me personally it was a matter of great surprise that how some one of such balanced thinking have been allowed to propagate in Indian Society? I am worried about her safety, if the history of assissnation of "Mr. Gandhi" will not be repeated again when her opinions are made public in India. May God give her strength to stand for the right.I pray for her long life and prosperity.
I am thankful to Mr. Naveed Yasin fpr uploading this artcle here in original, although a mention of her writting has been made by mr. Manjo Bhai in Today's jang, but I was wondering where could I find the original text.

M. Ali replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 06:12 AM PST 

Thank you Naveed Yaseen Sb for sharing this. It is good to know an intellect like that in India.

AKHTAR replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 01:31 PM PST 

Dear Brother Observer;
If you observe that in pakistan all the problem created by MULLAHs?
Who kill Qauid -e-Azam (who give him poison) MULLAHs?
Who kill Liyaqat Ali Khan MULLAHs?
Who say kuta to AYOUB KHAN, MULLAH?
Who hangup ZA Bhotto MULLAH?
Who kill Gen Zia MULLAHs?
Who put in jaul A.Q KHAN MULLAHs?
Who put n sharief exile MULLAHS?
Who kill shaeeed bibi bhotto MULLAHs?
who is our president MULLAH?
Who is our prime minister MULLAH?
Who is killing in karachi MULLAHa?
I have many who???? etccc???

arsu replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:08 PM PST 

She has courageously described the facts, as one rarely finds anyone out of the indian electronic or paper media having unbiased opinion. Their media is largely under state control and also their degree of nationalism is much higher than ours.She has had daring views on Kashmir also.
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:26 PM PST 
DHA Lahore Plots Files Prices Lahore Real Estate

Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Dec 16, AM

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Allocation File 1 Kanal seller at 40 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 28.90 Sellers(s) at 29.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 43.00 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 22.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 34.75 Seller(s) at 34.80 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Affidavit File Seller(s) at 35.60 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 15.35 Seller(s) at 15.40

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Affidavit File Seller(s) at 15.85

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation TRANSFER file Buyer(s) at 30.55 Seller(s) at 30.60 ( OPEN files are priced lower).

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 21.00 Seller(s)at 21.10 Lacs.

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla Affidavit Buyer(s) at 21.20 Seller(s)at 21.25 Lacs.


DHA Islamabad phase 2 ext 11.75 to 12 lacs.
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Lahore Real Estate
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M.Tahir replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:48 PM PST 

Dear Mr. CMY sb
ASA, Pl let me know what is final demand for plot # 561-G located in Ph-5. Ref to your ad. "plots with LRE"
Thanks.

Salman replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 03:51 PM PST 

Dear Mr CMY,
A quick query:I have got PKR 1.5-1.7 million to invest. Which one is a better investment

Option1: Two 1 Kanal plots in NFC 2
Option2: One 1 Kanal file in DHA 9/10

or if there are any other options that you think are better than these???

CMY replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 09:21 PM PST 

Both are great investments but I believe DHA 9-10 may be first choice.
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:01 PM PST 
7 Marla House in in Eden Value Homes for sale

Salam All,
I want to sell my house in Eden Value Homes. It is situated 2 KM from thokar on Main Multan Road.

Size: 6.82 marla corner block C
Booking Price : 39,98377
Total Amount Paid: 3,79846 X 5 = 18,99230
Remaining 5 Installments
Next Installment due on : 8 Jan 2009.
Demand : send your offers at
Development Charges payable at the end: Rs. 95,000
Cost of making bed room spacious payable : Rs. 89,100 ( will be paid by the buyer)
Transfer fee = 45,000 Approx

best wishes,
Asim

nasir replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:15 PM PST 

Asim this time you did not mention the demand

Asim replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 04:57 PM PST 

Yes Nasir, I didn't mention it because people are making different offers depending upon their market know how and budget, so I want to have choice as well, I will accept the best offer.
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 01:50 AM PST 

Dear Sir,
Would like to appreciate what one journalist did in Iraq on a farewell to President Bush. May Allah bless him more with honor and bravery.
As per the recent news one Arab citizen has placed a very high bid for buying the shoe thrown at American president.
I wish every Muslim community and country should collect money and participate in the bid. A grand auction of shoe thrown at President Bush would certainly represent the voice of Muslims all over the world.
WE can at least do this. I am ready to give/donate 50,000. Rs for this cause if any one/group of people take initiative to do this.

May ALLAH give more strength to Muslims.

Regards
Usman Rawalpindi

Irf replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:21 AM PST 

wahoo i am also give 50 thousand RS

hak replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:34 AM PST 

He threw the shoe and became hero, what about those who are giving tough resistance to americans in iraq and afghanistan (now we should also add that who are giving tough resistence to pak forces in our northern belt), why no one comes forward any acknowledges their role.Usman don't take me wrong, instead of overreacting, better try to adopt ways that our religion has outlined in order to become a strong Muslim.

Umer Inayat replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 07:06 PM PST 

I am really disappoint when i see narrow thinking of my muslim brothers and sisters, we now named this shoe as "Voice of Muslim".....Ohhh mannn...open your hearts and minds........the organizations in USA are about to gather in front of white house with hundred of shoes in their bags....THEY ALL ARE NOT MUSLIMS OHHH MUSLIMS....

I wonder when we will be awaken from this narrow mindness, we have already suffered to name our atomic bomb as BOMB OF ISLAM....

yessss replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 08:49 PM PST 

Who knew the power of a shoe !!

Can a shoe defeat the brutal powers of the West? This man could become the next Ghandi !!!!!!

(smiling)

ali11 replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 09:23 PM PST 

Bush the only president in the history who has taken a unique fairwell. He should kill himself for receving such an insult.

Salute to Iraqi people. They are an alive nation.

yessss replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 09:35 AM PST 

The shoe thrower now has 2 broken arms, 3 broken ribs and many cuts and bruises.

Draw your own conclusions !!

arsu replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 01:53 AM PST 

Abrar, Russia did'nt enter Afghanistan with an intent to stay there only.Its a locked land and occupying the opium fields was never his goal.World knows his ultimate goal was to reach hot waters, the easiest approach to which was through Pakistan only. That time defeat of Russia in Afghanistan was a life and death situation for Pakistan. Gen. Zia, Gen.Akhtar Abdul Rehman, Gen. Hameed Gul were among those matchless military geniuses who realized the imminent threat and launched a coveted war that led to the disintegration of Russia. Saying that Russia would have never invaded Pakistan knowing that Pakistan has nuclear capability sounds pretty immature analysis. We are a declared nuclear power today, yet every second day an American
drone simply enters our territory, kills our people and goes away safely. Afghanistan does’nt mind saying that it may also target the terrorists inside Pakistan’s territory if needed and we remain silent. Indian Air Force planes enter our territory and we save our face by simply saying, it was due to a technical fault. It has always been Pak Army and ISI that has delivered in real sense.

Abrar replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 06:45 AM PST 

arsu,
Reaching warm waters was a dream of Russian empire in the last century. This propaganda tool among others was successfully employed to mobilize Pakistani nation for Afghan Jihad. We will use this same Russian fear if we need to rally people against that nation again.

As far as our generals are concerned, they did what they were told to do. These generals only managed training camps, provided logistic support and channeled funds given by USA, Europeans and Islamic world to Mujahadeen. Afghan Jihad was a classical guerilla war where you only hit and run. No pitch battle was fought. Russian troops were not uprooted province by province. No general led the army in a grand battle. Most of the time targets were moving Russian troops and their supply lines on the ground and helicopters and planes in the air. The real heroes are those unsung Mujahadeens who carried out operation in the field and their commanders who led them personally behind enemy lines.

Let me ask you why these military genius and for that matter any other genius failed to push India out of Kashmir. In fact, we lost Siachen under one of those geniuses.
Our covert operations in Kashmir did not break India in different parts in the last 60 years yet we consider ourselves heroes for breaking Soviet Union. We believe in that because we like to hear that.

The reason of Soviet Union breakup was their internal.

We are being harassed by USA with
drone attacks and other threats because internally we are vulnerable and weak. India is also aware of this weakness. Despite having nuclear weapons, we are not a mature nation. We still look at others to come and solve our own problems.

azher, Manchester replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 06:51 AM PST 

Dear Mr. arsu,I agree with the first 0art of your comments but towards the endline you have concluded that "it has always been Pak Army and ISI that has delivered in real sense" If Iam not wrong, it was General Musharaf's rule in the country when American Drones started violating the teritorial borders of Pakistan, It was not the democratic rule in the country, question is why the Pakistan Army failed to deliver, when they had all the power in the world to sack the Cheif justice, issue NROs, sell the Pakistani citizens to Bush Administration, why did they fail to shoot down the drones? COSE their commander in chief was shitting in the pents?

arsu replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 04:32 PM PST 

Abrar, that's a known fact it was a gureilla war but to fight a war you desperately need to have sound planing, provision of logistic support and prompt traing of the mujahideen, as you have pointed out yourself. And these Generals proved that time their true caliber.But i am surprised to read how come you expect any of these Generals to lead an army for a grand battle with Russia on Afghan territory.It was a battle between X and Y, why would and under which law our forces would intrude in Afghan territory and start fighting with Russia. Russia never touched us, but same time we wanted Russia to be defeated as surely we would have been the next prey for a victorious Russia.
Azher, we are under a world order, bring into power anyone you like, no one can stop it.Yes these can be stopped only after we bring certain fundamental changes in ourselves, our set up, our society, and our policies.
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Monday, December 15, 2008 09:35 PM PST 

Dear forum,i would appreciate your valuable openions.They say *Realism is begning of wisedom*.
My point is people are still demanding high prices for their plots/houses.
Good old days of boom are gone and are not gonna be back for next few years,this is my own humble openion.
I too have properties , though i am not selling them but i do know how much have they lost.
With all due respect to CMY and seller,plot of B block DHA Ph 7,demanding 68 lakh.I think this plot would not attract more than 50 lakh in 2009.
CMY sahib is a nice and honest man.If he ask forum to put reasonble offers,he should also ask seller to put reasonable demand.

CMY replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:19 PM PST 

AQ B 317 corner is now sold. May be it will be 50 lacs in 2009 and may be it will be 75 lacs in 2009. No one know it for sure where it will be in future but for now it was a very reasonable demand by sellers. People demand 70 to 75 lacs in B and H block corners and this guy was demanding only 68 lacs.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
0322-4009967
0300-4009967

Ag replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 06:32 PM PST 

I wish very best of luck to both buyer and seller.CMY you are right no one knows for sure, about market direction for year 2009.However an educated guess,if any one apply, things are very clear.

azher syed Manchester replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 03:37 AM PST 

Sorry Mr Aq!
*Realism is not the begning of wisedom* BUT *making mistakes is the begning of learning and "learning is the begning of wisdom" and for learning some thing you have to pay a price!
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Monday, December 15, 2008 08:31 PM PST 
DHA Lahore Plots Files Prices Lahore Real Estate

Market Pulse
Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Dec 15,

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Allocation File 1 Kanal seller at 40 Lacs
DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 28.90 Sellers(s) at 29.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 43.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 AllocationFile Sellers(s) at 22.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 34.75 Seller(s) at 34.80 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Affidavit File Seller(s) at 35.60 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 15.30 Seller(s) at 15.35

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Affidavit File Seller(s) at 15.85

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation TRANSFER file Buyer(s) at 30.55 Seller(s) at 30.60 ( OPEN files are priced lower).

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 21.00 Seller(s)at 21.10 Lacs.

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 21.20 Seller(s)at 21.25 Lacs.

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*** Always deal with Registered/Authorized Dealers only ***

Rates you can trust provided by:

Ch. Mujahid Yasin (CMY)
Lahore Real Estate
Registered/Authorized Dealer (DHA, EMAAR, Bahria Town, Urban Developers, etc.)
+92-300-400-9967
+92-322-400-9967
eMail: LRE786@GMail.com

http://www.LahoreRealEstate.com/
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Monday, December 15, 2008 04:12 PM PST 

How is the property going in next 2-3 years. Is that going to be more expensive or not.

I want to invest something in this area and would like to have an idea about this.

Thanks in advance.
Boota

Rehman- Qatar replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 07:12 PM PST 

I personally think that the property will remian low and
prices will be more or less at the same level - 10% down till start of 2010.

arsu replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:12 AM PST 

Boota is absolutely right, one should not expect any boom in the realestate for minimum 3 years atleast. Habib i could not understand the good sense behind investing in the realestate at this point of time (though in the areas that are cheaper and possibly be populated soon), knowing that they are not going to pay you for coming 3 years atleast. Don't you think it would be a kind of dead investment. Also with the escalating indo-pak tension in the region, investment in the realestate has become more risky these days. I personally feel its time only to wait and see till the uncertainty vanishes.Would be nice if you could name a few societies that you think are low in price and shall be having residential potential soon.

Habib replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 01:55 PM PST 

Arsu You are absulutely right, but hitory has told that if you invest in booming market you lose and if you invest in right place in slump you gain.
For example Euro was down to earth in 2000 and there was no sense in investing in but People who invested at that time and sold in in 2007 to 2008 gained almost 60%,
in 1998 Pakistani economic out look was very bad and National saving Defence saving certificates was offering upo 18%, but it was crazy idea at that time to invest but people who invested there Got their money 5X
In 2001 UK pund touched lowest level at that time against Dollar and was going down day by day but investor could make their mony 1.5X just in short time.
In 2000 Gold was 20 years low and it was crazy idea to invest in it at that time but now it is 3 times that price [in US dollar not in pak rupee]
Today pak property is V Low
Dubai stock is very low and going down day
Oil is low
But who know what will happen in 2,3 years

yessss replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 08:57 PM PST 

Property values will continue to fall for the next few years !!

There is no way around this reality. World economies are falling and Pakistan will be greatly impacted since most of the real estate is bought thru foreign currency. I am not in the same financial situation I was one year ago. My net worth has dropped too much and I expect it to drop more, as do all of us. This is not about me. This is about most hard working people. The bottom has fallen out. Will it recover? Most think it will, but it will be years !!

How many Pakistanis living and working inside Pakistan can afford to buy houses and land?
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Monday, December 15, 2008 02:11 PM PST 
plot for sale in suigas society lahore

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Road
Demand(Rs)
Features
For Sale
lahore
suigas society
1
E
124/6
18.5 marla
40
6400000
excellent location 4 mintures drive from d-h-a phase 4&5
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(37364)
Monday, December 15, 2008 01:43 PM PST 
FOR SALE

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Road
Demand(Rs)
Features
For Sale
LAHORE
NFC
II
L
106
10 M
40 FT
525000
Near to park
:forsale:

price is for land cost only
land cost all paid
dev charges 9 paid
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(37363)
Monday, December 15, 2008 01:41 PM PST 
FOR SALE

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Road
Demand(Rs)
Features
For Sale
LAHORE
NFC
II
L
225
5 M
40
350000
Near to park
:forsale: :forsale:

Land cost all paid
dev. charges 9 paid
price is for land only

replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 03:57 PM PST 

I am interested to buy this ploy of NFC,
How can you tranfer and what is deal.
Fahd

replied on Thursday, December 18, 2008 03:58 PM PST 

I am interested to buy this ploy of NFC,
How can you tranfer and what is deal.
Fahd
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Sunday, December 14, 2008 07:19 PM PST 

I was recently a victim of a fraud by a property dealer when he kept my token money of ten thousand rupees for the reason i wanted 10 more days to give advance.

Can we all share our similar experiences to help other people avoid such situations.

:flg

Habib replied on Sunday, December 14, 2008 07:50 PM PST 

Normally he should not do that, either he is unhappy with you due to some reason, or you got the deal on very very accurate price, and dealer could not get chance to cut money out of it, You know mostly dela is finalized in many hands and delaers distribute the money among themselves after deal is done, So if they relie on Halal comession then they get only 10000 to 15000 which is tough for them to survive. In a typical deals dealer makes 50,000 to 70,000 only then they are happy.
If you are confident in disclosing the details of deal then only one can comment about how good deal was, 10000 is not a loss if you get a plot in very good price.

AS replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 11:52 AM PST 

We must always select a good reputation dealer after thourough survey. We should also have the courage to disclose the names of dealer acting fraudlently with any one. Always consult some reliable friend before interacting with a dealer. A DEALER can be very very harmful if not dealt with catious approach. Thanks

Habib replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 02:11 PM PST 

Problem is most of good dealers have not too may options. and if you goto them the plots is usually many hands away.

dealers side replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 03:56 PM PST 

> for the reason i wanted 10 more days to give advance.

by 10 more days it seems may be at the time of giving token you made some commitment which you did not honour and the seller considered the token fortified due to not giving more advance in agreed upon time. no decent seller can hold his property for you for 10 days on a small token of 10 thousand. the
prices fluctuate and he may lose on price or some of his own commitment elsewhhere. otherwise as a courtesy he may give you more time than commited at the time of token. also some times people try to put seller on hold on small token then try to sell further on profit if not able to sell they leave their token or even demand it back. what is the token for

Observer replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 05:59 PM PST 

Token is an indication of your intention to buy, not to complete purachse by a certain date.

The point is we dont have a 'code of conduct' or an arbitration system for the real estate market. I wonder how long the illiteracy is going to rule over every aspect of our life. Time to realise the value of effective systems to run things.

Ahmed replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 01:36 AM PST 

Its not matter of conduct or ethics. Its simply market practice. Otherwise investors will book hundreds of plots and then back out. Yes for the ten days they could have wait, But just think may be the seller needed the money and he did not have 10 days?? Everthings has two sides we should look on both sides.

dealers side replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:52 PM PST 

@ Observer

that is your definition of token. intention to buy,is not open ended. at the time of accepting token the buyers and sellers agree on conditions about time of transfer and mode of payment. if buyer needs more time than agreed he should request for that as a courtesy from seller not as his god given right to extend the time of payment as and when he wants. you have to be fair to both sides

Observer replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 06:39 PM PST 

@Dealer's side

Dont speak out of your greed to keep some one's money. If the advance cant be made than the token is returned, end of story. Dont try and make it a conclusion that the money has to be forfeited.

dealers side replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 07:08 PM PST 

if you dont know the meaning of commitment you should not confirm a deal with token. honour your commitment. buying selling is not joke. if a confirm token is returned because buyer does not honour the agreed time and amount then it can be misused by investors who will give many tokens. if price goes up they sell for profit if not they get token back. what a joke

Observer replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 07:27 PM PST 

@ dearler

I think we need to stress the importance of having an express understanding of what are the terms of transaction. Where is a reuglatory authority that judges the fairness of transactions in property matters. I suppose such thing would benefit dealers, sellers and buyers.

CMY replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 08:51 PM PST 

Arbitration system for the real estate market is available in Pakistan but only for
DHA Lahore properties through DHA registered dealers association.

One must buy or sell property through DHA Registered dealers to protect them self from any trouble if they show up at any point.

Problems like above Riaz sahib could have been solved in one day if deal was done through DHA Lahore registered dealers.
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Sunday, December 14, 2008 05:40 PM PST 
Faisal Eden Villas

Ad Type
City
Scheme
For Sale
Faisal Abad
Eden Villas
Dear Friends,could some one up date the development works of Eden villas Faisal abad.I am not hopeful if i keep in view the other projects of Eden Group.
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(37360)
Sunday, December 14, 2008 05:15 PM PST 
Plot for sale in D-12/1

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
For Sale
Islamabad
D-12
1
--
Res
35 x 70
Dear friends,

I have a plot 854 in D-12/1 size 35x70 wanted to sell immidiately please reply on this forum thanks and have a nice time.

Regards,
Afzal

Desi replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 01:49 AM PST 

What is your asking price?

SSH replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 12:28 PM PST 

Please do mention your demand and
contact numbers, if you really own a plot and want to sell it.
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Sunday, December 14, 2008 04:46 PM PST 
Degree in BBA, MBA, ENG or Any diploma of 3 years

Ad Type
City
Dealing
Islamabad
Dear Friends,

I have college where you can get a degree online its very easy method of studying and completing your studies in a very short time.

It’s good specially for the peoples who wanted to come and work in middle east its valid and will be attested from Ministry of Foreign affairs of UAE, which is mandatory for getting a visa of UAE.

Please do forward your exp, qualification and interested in.

Send me your contact details by email or any phone number i m visiting Pakistan for two weeks and can be available in Lahore, Islamabad and Karachi schedule will be announced shortly.

All enquiries are welcome at,

Thanks and have a great day.

Regards,

Tariq replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 04:13 AM PST 

Dear ,

Is it " Life Experience Degree" ?

Regards,

Ahsan replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 05:05 PM PST 

Is this an accredited degree or for that matter affiliated with any university accredited with the HEC Islamabad?

tzk replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 07:44 PM PST 

Diploma Mill?

You don t even have to wait 3 year. They can count three years from three years ago
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(37358)
Sunday, December 14, 2008 03:54 PM PST 
HOUSE FOAM FOR SALE IN CHAK SHAHZAD

Ad Type
City
Scheme
For Sale
Islamabad
Chak Shahzad
House foam for sale in chak shahzad
Plot size 10 kanal = 330 x 168 corner plot
Demand 5 crore

Paradise Real Estate, Main Adyaila Road
Rawalpindi Pakistan
M ARSHAD RAJA - - Pho

:sh: :sh: :sh: :sh: :sh: :sh: :sh:

MM replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 12:29 PM PST 

Foam or Farm? please clearify

Ahmed replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 01:42 AM PST 

I wonder why should i spend 5 Crore in Chack Shehzad for 10 kanal. I will prefer to buy 10 kanal plots in Defence with lessor amount. Or there is something i am missing about Chack Shehzad?? IS this the area where Musharaff has his house?
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Sunday, December 14, 2008 04:22 AM PST 
DHA 7 plot for sale

Dear CMY

I have a plot that I would like to sell, I would like for you to value the plot I have and if it is satisfactory I would like for you to handle the process.

The plot I have is in Phase 7 S block no: 784

I am willing to sell this plot at 42 lacs and if this is achieveable I will travel to Pakistan immediately as I have holidays till January. So please could you provide information if you can sell this plot.

CMY replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 02:08 PM PST 

Rashid bhai this plot is worth 36.50 lacs. Plots near your plot are available with us at this price. S 892 is available at 37 demand price. S 960 is also available 38 lacs demand price.

Please let us know if you are willing we could try our best to sell your plot at current market rate of around 37 lacs.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
0322-4009967
0300-4009967

Rashid replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 07:05 PM PST 

Dear CMY

Thank you for your quick response,
I want to make sure a few things if this plot sold for 37 lacs, am I correct in assuming that I would have to minus these figures.

(1) 175000 for outstanding development charge
(2) 2% Govt tax 74000
(1) 1% dealer fee 37000

Are these all the charges that will be deducted or if there are any others please let me know.

Another point I want to make is that the plot I hold is a 21 marla plot instead of 20 marlas thats why development charge is higher, would the price of this plot not increase due to the extra marla of land.

Rashid replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 07:22 PM PST 

Dear CMY
I would like to ask another question, I don't hold a pakistani bank account when this plot is sold, I would like for the pay order to be made out on my cousins name, is this possible in accordance with DHA regulations.

Thank you

CMY replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 08:21 PM PST 

Rashid sahib pay orders could be made in person other than the seller IF buyer is told about before deal. Most peole dont mind it.

CMY replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 08:27 PM PST 

Rashid sahib you will only deduct last payment of 1.5 lacs. You don't pay any tax ONLY buyer pays it. You will pay 1% of paid amount to you that will be about 35500 if plot is sold at 37 lacs. Sorry for late answer. There is no way to know your plot is 21 marla at this point. Size of plot is not known till possession is given. Some one may have cheated you its a 21 marla.

Rashid replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 09:26 PM PST 

Thank you very much again CMY Sahib for your quick response,

When I brought this plot three instalments had been paid, I latter recieved a phone call from my cousin to say that the dealer contacted him to say that because the plot was 21 marla the development charge had increased to 175000 I paid the outstanding 75000 to my cousin to pay DHA. Then I paid a further development charge which again I paid at 175000 through my cousin.

Please CMY could you tell me would the DHA office accept 175000 as development or they wouldn't and if they don't that means I have been cheated. Is there any way this could have been possible.

Rashid replied on Monday, December 15, 2008 09:33 PM PST 

CMY sahib

I want to know how I have been cheated, and a way I can do this would DHA print off the reciepts that have been paid as development charges. This would show there is no outstanding ammount and the charges remain at 1.5 lacs.

Jameel replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 04:07 AM PST 

This is strange story, all plots of DHA phase 7 have 1.5 Development charges every 6 months till 9 Lac will be paid, when possession will be available then depending upon the size of Plot DHA may charge little more money if Plot is bigger,
When you bought a plot you must have got allotment letter which is showing detail of all the the Paid and due instalments.
I think either you were cheated or hopefully This has happened,....
In Dec 2006 when you bought the plot CVT was imposed and which stated that "All Plots 20 Mela or Bigger would pay CVT of 25000" Dealer who finalized the deal tried to explain why you had to pay 25000 more, But you misunderstood that installment will be 175000 instead of 150000. On each installment you Cousin is depositing to DHA's account 1.75 Lac instead of 1.5 Lac [The Bank will never refuse you even if you pay 3 Lac] Now 75000 Must be credited as Plus in you plot's account. You can vartfy it from DHA's account office and if it is the case then next installment should be 75000 instead of 1.5 Lac to balance, But You need to get information from DHA account office.
Good Luck

Jameel replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 04:14 AM PST 

second thing if you sell plot in 37 lac and you dont clear next 2 instalments then you will get 34 lac in hand [i am not taking into account above ocnfusion till you clarify that why you paid 175000], If you clear Dec 2008 Due instalment you will get 35.5 Lac in Hand. You will pay 1% comession to dealer on what you get in hand. No other tax or dues will be involved.

CMY replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 02:55 PM PST 

Rashid bhai NO PLOT SIZE can be given by ANYONE for DHA 7 plots until possession is available in the block. You can send DHA 2 lacs as development charges . DHA will add 1.5 lacs to current installment and rest 50000 is added in next due installment.

I think in your case 1.75 lacs may have 25000 as fine for past un paid installments. I don't know what is going on here. Either send me copy of your allocation or intimation letter or send me receipt so I could check your account from DHA office and find out what is paid as development charges and what is paid as fines etc. But do keep in mind no one should tell you its a 21 marla plot at this time. If someone is telling you that there is some thing fishy and you should get it cleared.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
03224009967

Rashid replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 09:38 PM PST 

Dear CMY and Jameel sahib

Thank you for your advice, When I purchased this plot I recieved a reciept. I was told that I could collect the allocation letter in 15 days time, which was also stated on letter but I was travelling back to home the following day. I was told that this was not a problem and I could collect this allocation letter any time when I was next in Pakistan. Could you let me know if this is normal pratice.
I also have a reciept for CVT which was paid on the day of purchase of 25000.

But when the plot was purchased I was not made aware of any outstanding fines by previous owner and if they were would these be added to my account. I then paid the further 75000 for the three development charges paid by previous owner because they realised that plot was 21 marla, whch I now know to be false as they can not work this out at this point. Then I paid 175000 in June also,I have always paid my charges on time, I really hope that this is a mistake and my acount is in credit of 75000 inshllah.

How can I get this matter cleared ?

Rashid replied on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 09:56 PM PST 

Dear Brothers,

If I do sell this plot can you tell me the procedure and of anything I should look out for whilst the deal is going on.

Jazzak Allah you have been of very good help to me.

Jameel replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 04:16 AM PST 

Yes it is normal practice to collect original letter later, but other option was to pay 6000 urgent fees and get it same day, Possibly dealer did not tell you this option as he was planning to fool you.

Regarding 21 merla you had been fooled, there must be some other outstanding charges which Dealer reverted to you, But then onwards if you had been paying 175000, that surplus amount is with DHA and can be adjusted, Looks you lost 75000 which you paid 1st time to DHA, As seller was responsible to clear all dues before that.
Once I encountered similar situation I bought the plot in 30 lac I had to pay 30 lac to seller, but 321000 out standing amount was outstanding on that plot. My delaer "misguided" me saying you better clear this amount and make pay order of 26,79000 in favor of seller, I told him that I shall make only single 30,00000 Pay order in his favor, why should I clear dues for the plot which still belong to someone else. He siad what difference does it make it is matter of trust of 2 days, I said Ok you Pay I shall give you in 2 days. He said it was not a problem but I dont have this much cash in my hand, I told him laughing how much you have 1 lac? Give me I shall put rest from my side, Finally it was done in same way I wanted. Always remember to clear all dues is resposibilty of seller.

Pick a phone and at least ring your delaer to ask what did he do.

Rashid replied on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 06:37 AM PST 

Dear Jameel thanks for your input,

I hope the information that you have provided helps others as well as myself. I hope that is a lesson for others because it was certainly for me.

I believe it is best to go to a reputable dealer like CMY sahib and there are probably others too. Dealers may offer cheaper plots or sell your plot for a little more but we must think is it worth it in the long run. They will misguide you like has been done with me.

I would personally sacrifice 1 lac for safe and honest transaction straight and without unwanted suprises. I commend the work of CMY and his agency and people like Jameel sahib who state it as it is.
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