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Friday, June 12, 2015 07:34 AM PST 

Dear All,

Any update on IVY GREEN?

BNE
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Friday, June 12, 2015 07:21 AM PST 

Aoa everyone. .my question is for experts like CMY SIR, Jameel bhai and ones who know real things about property, what will u think about the current situation of state life phase 2 , what is the solution and where would u expect it to be after 5 years ..please gives ur opinions about it ...and would like to hear from u the real solutions. .thank you so much for ur valuable input and time

Khurram replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 01:31 PM PST 

As far as
location is concerned SL2 does not have match however it is pertinent to mention here that the management has to play their role to take the prices up. The work in SL1 proves that they have lot of potential. In my humble and lay opinion the prices will definitely rise here with the passage of time. If you have read the post of CMY he mentioned that it might be taken over by DHA in any time frame then you can yourself imagine the worth of that place which is already in the center of DHA and very close to ring road. The moment they announce any activity here the prices will be out of reach. Regards
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Friday, June 12, 2015 05:02 AM PST 

What is the best commercial option in the southern part of Lahore?v
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(65778)
Friday, June 12, 2015 04:56 AM PST 

Dear experts
I hav 6 million and want to invest for 2 yrs time. Plz guide for maximum return.
Thanx in advance
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Friday, June 12, 2015 04:55 AM PST 

Daewoo is having bus terminal near dha prism H F & J block
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Friday, June 12, 2015 04:54 AM PST 
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Friday, June 12, 2015 03:33 AM PST 
When to Pay Money to Dealer For Buying Plot?

Dear Brothers

If we have to buy a plot then at what stage we need to pay money to the dealer? I do not want to give all money to the dealer before plot transfer in my name. I want to pay at time of plot transfer. Is there any standard procedure to safeguard the interests of the buyer? Does each housing society has its own procedure for it?



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Jameel replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:47 AM PST 

100% payment at time of transfer not even 1% at token, If Biana is 3 Months then sometimes they ask 50% Commission which is justified.
Better avoid biana, Give Token of one Lac and verify and arrange property in 2 weeks. I always bought on Token and Full payment. Only exception was house which was was with 5 Lac Biana and 3 Months was given to get LDA NOC, I did Not pay any Commission only gave at time of transfer. Neither dealer demanded.


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In society office, when final steps of Purchase take place, The seller surrender his original Documents to office they recognize the papers and verify the ID of seller, and Let You sign every thing etc including signature and Bio metric, Then You come out of Office and get Full payment receipt from seller on stamp paper, and get receipt on Copy of Pay order get dealer as witness.
After all you usually pay cash Commission of dealer at the same time.

Society may give you allotment latter at later stage can take few days to 6 weeks depending upon the Process of Society. Commission is not delayed till that time.

Salman Maqsood LRE replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:51 AM PST 

Dealer is paid only after full transfer is complete in society office

kamran replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:57 AM PST 

Dear friends, I am going to buy a 12 marla house in eden value homes. The demand was 165 and finally 150 is the asking price. I like the
location of this closed community. I am going to finalise within a few days. Any suggestions? Is that price, 150, ok? Thanks

Aslam replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 05:57 AM PST 

@Jameel & Salman. Thanks for clarifying. I actually wanted to ask that when we should pay the money to the seller? So I can assume from above that we pay to the seller at time of plot transfer in society office. So we pay to seller by cross check or Pay Order?

Thank you again for clarifying these issues.

Aslam replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 06:00 AM PST 

@Jameel Sb. Also what is difference between Bayana and token?

mubashar replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 02:42 PM PST 

Token is an intial little amount one gives to seller for locking the deal whereas Bayana is one third of total amount which was decides by seller and buyer to finlalized the deal.
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Friday, June 12, 2015 02:19 AM PST 

Search time increased from 7 days to 90 for above search field

Jameel replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 05:16 AM PST 

thanks
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Friday, June 12, 2015 12:57 AM PST 
DHA Town Phase 9

What do the experts say; the prices of 5 Marla plots in Phase 9 Town have reached its peak, now is it wise to buy plots which is in the bracket of 55 to 60 lacs? Is there any juice left in this investment for the purpose of investment ?

Khan


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omer replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 12:00 PM PST 

CMY SIR , I agree but u know 1000 times better than me that it was all because of
files trading ..I will buy today a plot in prism if anyone can guarantee me 300% gain in next 5 years..I am sure sir that u got my point quite precisely what I was trying to ask u in above statement. .thank you and would wait for reply from you sir

omer replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 12:50 PM PST 

And sir one more thing my brother still have the file for one kanal plot he bought in 2004 for 45 lakh .he keeps that in a frame next to his wedding pic because that's the year he got married in Pakistan (he bought the plot to satisfy his in laws before marriage).I hope he did make 300% after 11 years..sir there are alot of sad stories too..not everyone is an investor

Khan replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 02:26 PM PST 

If the price of 5 Marla plot in phase 5 is around 80 lacs then don't you think that Phase 9 Town 5 Marla would be equal to that proportion, I know your argument would be that phase 5 is fully developed in shape of constructed houses, but at the same time the
location of 5 Marla plots in phase 9 Town has much more better location. So according to my estimation soon after the possession the builders who have bulk of plots in their kitty would start construction & very soon this town would be developed. In Round 1 or 1/12 years the price of 5 Marla plot would be around Rs. 80 lacs
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Friday, June 12, 2015 12:36 AM PST 

Plz inform Dc rate for DHA phase 7 now 2014-15 & 2015-16. How much taxes for DHA phase 7?.any ideas for 2015-16 Dc rates?
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Friday, June 12, 2015 12:34 AM PST 

Dear Jameel Sb.

Is there any tax which has to pay by seller when he sold the plot from DHA phase 1 to Phase-11. If have how much any what is the basis of its calculation?

Thanks in advance and jazak Allah

Jameel replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:55 AM PST 

Yes there is capital Gain tax but Payable if you only recently bought the property if holding more than 5 years no Tax.
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(65770)
Friday, June 12, 2015 12:32 AM PST 

what is difference between semi comm. and full comm.?? How much time you will give for full payment? Max I can have 80 lac only. :(

Ahtesham replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:52 PM PST 

@imran1234 i think that was ur reply to my previous post regardind semi commercial 5 marla house in PS... U can
contact me on
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(65769)
Friday, June 12, 2015 12:29 AM PST 

Bro Habib: Thanks for your swift reply and insight. Valencia is good but not a gated society and DHA management is unmatched and valuable. If you or anyone spread light in more detail (pros & cons) will be appreciated. Mr. Jameel and Block B and other Experts are also welcome to comment, pls.
Best wishes,

Jameel replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:38 AM PST 

Valencia is gated

MS replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 01:23 PM PST 

Many people are selling houses in Valencia because cost of electric unit is very high compared to other residential societies in Lahore. You can also confirm this fact from any dealer that will also tell you the same fact. Valencia rates are almost close to peak today and have small gain expected in the future.
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Friday, June 12, 2015 12:11 AM PST 

Salam every one,

i would like to thank every one who particiapte on this forum , i really find it useful. IA every one who like to help others without their own benefit will be rewarded.

I am sure with this type of service i will meet Lre team very soon.
Also special thanks to CMY sb. , Jameel sb. and few other who post Pics and updates.

Also would like to thank Adil and saeed sb who proactivley ans my questions over the phone and msgs.

I cant stress enough how hard is for an overseas pakistani to buy
A plot in lahore , even ppl you know do bayana on bayana which is
Cant be monitored or traced as this is the business as usuall , i really hope some one from any govt put end to this practice.
A plot should be tranfrd first before it becomes avail in the market again.


Thanks !!!

:pkf

CMY replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:48 AM PST 

Thanks
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Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:13 PM PST 
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Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:44 PM PST 
DHA 9 Town Updated Rates

Dear LRE

Please update DHA 9 town rates after posession announcement.

Thanks.

E.A replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:50 PM PST 

3-5 laks gain is expected as per many dealers...
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Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:32 PM PST 
Lahore Ring Road Southern Loop Effects on Bahria Town

AOA,

As everyone knows a large area of Bahria Town Lahore is marked by LRR. So effected members(including me) are uncertain what will happen. I want to submit an application to Bahria Town lahore Management to ask how will they compensate the effected members?

It will have more impact if more effected members want to get into application.

Please reply this thread if you are the effected member.


Regards,
Naveed



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aq replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:39 PM PST 

Map
location is not finalised or at-least map is not provided yet by PU. And Bahria management is also not guiding people about this regard. Mr Naveed do u have any suggestion how to contact bahria in this regard.

imran replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:45 PM PST 

kisi ka pass LRR ka updated map hai ?

Bahria resident replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:46 PM PST 

Naveed, I'm not affectee of LRR but I'm concerned since it appears it will pass very close to my home. Please keep posting updates if you get any to from Bahria Town Management.

E.A replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:46 PM PST 

Mr.Naveed,

let us put hands together and
contact with Bahria to get our rights in a right way.

Thanks

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:47 PM PST 

@aq, I'll forward a written application to all high level officers including Chairman. I believe written application will be more useful than verbal discussion with Bahria Town officers.

Any other better channel/suggestion to proceed will be much appreciated.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:53 PM PST 

@everyone Thanks a lot for the reply.

My plan is - I'll draft an application and share with everyone interested, all you need to fill your details(plot/house number, member id, copy of allotment letter).

Anyone can submit application at his/her own or lets collect as many applications and submit at once.

Any other better channel/suggestion to proceed will be much appreciated.

Moin replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 07:56 PM PST 

Mr Naveed,

great initiative. I am ready to join.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:02 PM PST 

@Moin, I am not sure we should mention our plot/house number so publicly, any idea how can we collect all effected members ?


I've compiled application on Goolge Doc, please inbox me at , I can share the draft and open for suggestions to complete application.

Member replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:08 PM PST 

Dears

Which blocks are affected?

Amir replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:26 PM PST 

Please advice if Nargis Block is affected. I have a residential plot there.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:27 PM PST 

I am not exactly sure but what I know, they marked(red colored paint) on a large area starting near Grand Mosque to the left end through Tulip Ext.

There comes a large number of Houses, Commercial Plazas & Plots under this marking. A few members who were about to start construction has stopped due to uncertainty.

Some people are visiting the office(individually) but no serious response from Bahria Town Management, so I thought to start a formal application.

Please share this thread in your circle, lets all effected members get together to make an impact that we are really concerend and want to know how will Bahria Town compensate at time.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:31 PM PST 

Dear Naveed,
You have selected proper forum and way to proceed the matter. I am sure that you will be helping many others like you who are not in Lahore / Pakistan.
I wish and pray that all the affected members of Lahore Ring Road in Bahria Town get better and timely solution.
Good Luck!

Amer replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:38 PM PST 

The shared LRR map is closely passing by my plot in Iqbal block. I would like to join you guys in requesting BT Management to replace similar
location plot anywhere in safe blocks. But I am an overseas, and have no idea how can I join your initiative.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:42 PM PST 

Amer,

May be someone(family, circle) on your behalf can contribute, and hold your singed application and stand with us.

Siddique replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 08:57 PM PST 

Can someones please forward me LRR map on

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:00 PM PST 

Ahsan, I am not panic, by visiting Bahria office each officer will tell you new story/argument on this issue, no policy statement.

I do believe that Bahria will do something, that's what I want to know through a formal application.

Any other better channel/suggestion to proceed will be much appreciated.

Essa replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:04 PM PST 

@naveed,

I am ready to join you. I am also affected by LRR . If LRR will pass through this rout then it ll very badly effect the bahria town. because it will divide the BT in 2 portion and BT has to build under passes and overhead on LRR . It ll also affect the the Grand Masjid and affect its beauty and security. So I think Malik Raiz ll never allow this and they ll go to court against this.

But We have to do something and not sit silent . So in my opinion we have draft an application and posted it here so everyone can comment on it.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:08 PM PST 

@Essa,

thanks for your comments, I am thinking the same. I'll share drafted application in this thread soon.

Naveed replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:13 PM PST 

@Ahsan Thanks. Lets circulate this thread to as many effected members and get it done.

khan replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 09:21 PM PST 

Go to court and get a stay order against LRR

Sohail-KSA replied on Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:40 PM PST 

May i know the affected area in Iqbal Block ?

imran replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:38 AM PST 

Dear,
I live in Canada but have 1 plot in golf view, will that effect as well. It is in early numbers near nargis block. Please let me know whether its effected as well or not.

ZAKS replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 08:56 AM PST 

PLEASE NOTE MARKET RATE WILL NOT BE GIVEN TO SECTOR [D,E]BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE SECTORS ARE ILLEGAL,IT MAY INCLUDE GOLF VIEW ALSO.[[[FROM THE ARCHIVE]]]The TMA further argued that Bahria Town obtained approval of sector A, B and C of the Bahria Town Housing Scheme only and did not approve sector D, E and F. The constructions in those sectors were illegal, unauthorised in clear violations of the law. These constructions were made in violation of rules 13 & 34 of Punjab Private Housing Schemes and Sub Division Rules, 2010.

The Bahria Town rebutted the TMA, Iqbal Town arguments saying they had provided the proof of ownership of land measuring 1400 kanals. The sale deed of remaining land had not been executed due to ban imposed by the government as it had been seized vide notification dated June 6, 2012. The Bahria Town said the bank statement would be provided by them. The TMA has to accord preliminary planning permission only and the rules 13 and 34 were not applicable in this case.

The competent authority after hearing the arguments and examining the entire record rejected the plea of Bahria Town and declared its development work against the rules. In his decision, the secretary Local Government & Community Development Department wrote, “after hearing the parties and perusal of the record carefully, it is observed that appellant started the development works in these sectors without approval of the TMA in violation provisions of Punjab Private Housing Schemes and Sub Division Rules, 2010. Appellant also failed to provide the documents of ownership of the proposed site and bank statement. Appeal is therefore rejected being not maintainable.” FAR AS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS CONCERNED YOU OWN AGRICULTURE FARMLAND WORTH PEANUTS.

Waqas replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 01:59 PM PST 

Count me in as well. Though my plot doesn't come in the way of LRR but falls very near by to the markings done by P&D. Please draft an application where it could accommodate such a scenario as well.

zara replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 02:59 PM PST 

@Naveed kindly share the draft.

Naveed replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 03:07 PM PST 

I am in process of finalizing, will send shortly.

Naveed replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:04 PM PST 

@all, following is the application I intend to submit, please fill your credentials and send back to me. Either I'll print and submit myself, or anyone can submit it personally or we can gather to submit personally.

To,

Malik Riaz Hussain
Chairman Bahria Town


Dear Sir,

I am writing this application to Mr. Malik Riaz Hussain whom I know as a person who cares and feels for people, will never let the hopes of the people down associated to Bahria Town and look towards him in the hour of need.
Sir, I own ____________________, Block____________________ in sector________ in Bahria Town Lahore.
I want to put your attention to a serious situation which is really very painful for Bahria Town Lahore Members being affected. Few days back NLC/LRR personnel marked (red colored paint) over a large area near Grand Mosque through Iqbal Block, Rafi Block and Tulip Ext. According to them all marked area will be used to connect Lahore Ring Road (Raiwind road to Multan road) project.

There comes a large number of Houses, Commercial Plazas & Plots under this marking. A few members who were about to start construction has stopped due to uncertainty.

When I inquired Bahria Town officers about this issue, most of them were not familiar with this marking and gave following different remarks to add to my confusion:
There isn’t any written intimation from LRR Authorities. Please go ahead with the construction. LRR will not pass through Bahria. It is just a rumor.
Bahria Town will give new plot in replacement of each acquired plot and house at an equivalent
location.
Bahria Town will give only plot in replacement of each acquired plot, and constructed houses will be paid by LRR authority separately.
Bahria Town will pay in cash to each affected member to market price of specific property.

Sir, for most of the members who are not investor have spent their lifetime savings with a dream to construct to spend their life in this graceful locality. After construction of Lahore Ring Road, the security and peace will become question marks on Bahria Town promises in addition to secure investment. Therefore, I request you to please direct the concerned officials to let affectees know about the actual status and route of ring road through Bahria Town.

Secondly, in worst scenario if it passes from the planned route(marked by the personnel) then how the affected members will be compensated.

We are in very high uncertain situation, kindly consider the matter and help us to deal with it. Your personal consideration is much appreciated, looking forward to hear from your kindself on it.


Regards,
<Owner full name>
<Member id>
<contact number>
<signature>

Naveed replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:06 PM PST 

please send your signed application to me

Naveed replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 04:59 PM PST 

Dear @CMY what do you think about this issue?

Zia replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 07:52 PM PST 

@naveed please let me know the time and place . Lets meet tomorrow at grand masjid bahria town

Naveed replied on Friday, June 12, 2015 08:56 PM PST 

@zia, please
contact me tomorrow at 11am



W replied on Saturday, June 13, 2015 07:42 AM PST 

Ring road would be the best thing to happen for bahria town.

Overseas replied on Saturday, June 13, 2015 08:50 PM PST 

Naveed; you are going on right direction.
I will request to all karachi people not to invest more in Bahira Town as they are thieves.They have collected lum sum amount from Lahore and investing in Karachi now. They have forgotten to make development in Lahore like Golf View Residencia and some more.
I've purchased land in Golf View with 15.5 lac own and hope Bahria will develop GVR in near future. But their whole focus is in karachi now.Giving Mercedeze & Toyota cars to karachi people. so thay they may attract more in Karachi.
I will request to all pakistani people not to buy
files in future because they are very clever. They are playing with our money and we are disturbing each and every day.

M. Salman replied on Saturday, June 20, 2015 07:30 AM PST 

My plot is near jamia mosque. I want to be with you. Mr. Naveed, Can you give your mobile no. Or email to
contact you.

M Aamir replied on Thursday, July 2, 2015 03:40 AM PST 

Hi to all,
Just today i visited BTL and came to know about this disturbing news. I have a plot in Sector E, Rafi Block which will be totally swept away in constructing the LRR.
On top of it I am much devastated as i do not live in Pakistan and like everyone I invested my life savings only because we trusted the strong policies of BTL thru Mr. Riaz. But unfortunately the situation is very sad and confusing. I will be visiting the BTL management tomorrow but by reading the thread above it seems that it would be not much of any help.
So I would really appreciate if someone could guide me in order to handle this situation effectively. Thank you.

M.Najam replied on Thursday, July 9, 2015 01:56 AM PST 

Please mentioned postal/email address where we send application.

Usman replied on Saturday, July 11, 2015 07:09 AM PST 

I've an investment in 10 Marla file of Golf View. Someone please advise whether to dispose off the file or should I maintain that until further notice from Punjab government or Bahria Town Management. Looking forward for your valuable advice as soon as possible.

Hussain UK replied on Thursday, April 25, 2019 01:36 AM PST 

Hi, We have plot in Bahria town effected by ring road. We are still waiting to hear from them as they are going to pay the money for the plot value. We have no feedback as it has been 2 years now and we are still not paid. We are in Uk and have bbeen to Pakistan every year to get the money but there is no progress. We are so worried what is going to happen next as it is not easy for us to go and find out . Noone
update us what is the outcome.

please guide us what to do!!!!
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