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(54580)
Monday, September 17, 2012 02:50 AM PST 
10 marla vs 1 kanal house/plot

I have a small family of 5 i.e. me,wife,two daughters and one son ... i am confused between buying 10 marla or 1 kanal plot for my home please tell me pros and cons of both. i am planning to buy in bahria enclave islamabad btw.

overpaki replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 02:53 AM PST 

some times i feel 1 kanal will be too big for my family... and expensive to maintain and build ... when i think about 10 marla i feel i will not have a big garden ...

ZNS replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 03:06 AM PST 

I second overpaki, we are family of seven (including my parents). I also of an opinion that 10 marla is good enough but recently I thought that one can build a sq ft house (typical 10-12 marla) and leave space for lush green garden with beautiful landscaping. A friend of mine did and I really like the concept.

AHM replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 04:37 AM PST 

If you do not have plan to sale it or rent it at later stage than it is fine to go with unconventional covered area. I guess, 1 kanal plot with construction less than 4500 sft will have less commercial value.

This could be my personal judgmnet only. Experts may guide in a better manner. Actually, I am also in the same state of mind these days having 5 members family, living abroad can manage in 10 marla house quite comfortably but looking for bit bigger lawn.

Javed replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST 

Bigger plot always has an advantage. You can realy enjoy your life pleasure. In response to respected AHM, Commercial value of the plot will remain same as per the sorrounding
location, but only the covered area price may affect. I have 5 member family and I am planning about 25-30 ft lawn.

Dubai replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 01:01 PM PST 

BIGGER IS BETTER!

JUJ replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 04:12 PM PST 

I was in same situation with family of 6. I went for 10M as I heard that IK is more than enough and many people told me that they and their kid have never sit in lawn (they sit in front of TV or Computer instead). They even do not know what color is grass or flowers in their garden. Working people come late in the day too tired to notice anything.

aussie_expat replied on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:47 PM PST 

ZNS, Javed and Dubai are right. The bigger the better. You can leave lawn and it could also be used for family functions and events if you children dont like to play in it. Or you can grow vegetables and fruits there. or may be you can leave lawn on backside of your house and when you feel like you can do construction on that space and include it in your house.

aussie_expat replied on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:50 PM PST 

One more advice. If you can afford , then do go for bigger plot. With time everything is getting expensive and after 10-15 years middle class people would not be able to afford to buy a bigger plot for their houses. So better to build a big house today for your children. Make their lives easy for them in future and they dont have to struggle much.
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(54579)
Monday, September 17, 2012 02:12 AM PST 

Dear Habib sab and RZ sab,

I am admirer of your view posted time to time.

Phase 9 file and a 10-marla plot in U or T block phase 7 are available at 2.8 million. I want to invest this much amount for a period of 5 years. But in a fix which of the two options should I go for ? One could be on ground plot after two years but other is still a file. I shall appreciate if both of you advise please

tahir aziz replied on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 07:48 PM PST 

You go to ph 7 10 marla is best investment...Ph9 town not apprciate much more to ph7 thankx
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(54578)
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:05 AM PST 

Dear Members,

One of my office friend wants to buy 5 marla plot on installments. Some of his relative advised to buy in Khiyaban-e-amin society.He visited this society and following is two plan from existing owner.

L Block-Khiyaban-e-Amin-5 Marla Plot

275,000 + 165,000+78500 (Downpayment& 1&2 quarter)
78500 rs onward per quarter
total Payment (10,90000)

N Block Khiyaban-e-Amin-5 Marla
250,000 + 165,000+66000 (downpayment & 1&2 quarter)
66000 rs onward per quarter
Total payment (765,000)

Kindly advise should he buy plot in this society and which one L or N block?

aliakee replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 01:44 AM PST 

i am afraid that these blocks are not approved from lda, before buying you must confirm it.I dont found any information but my knowledge says they are not approved.

Zohaib replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST 

Khiyaban-e-amin is good but pace of development is v slow in M,N,P blocks.

A lot of development has been done in L block, the
location of the block is better. Buy in L if want better location and don't want to wait looooong time :) for possession.
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(54577)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:07 PM PST 

I am dealing in a property the area is less than 5 Marla and it is not in a society. Can someone guide me please how I can do all process to make transaction clean and transfer to my name.

- I am in abroad is it possible the property can be transfered to my name.

- How can I verify that there is no loan against the property from bank.

- According to seller and property dealer if area is less than 5 marla it is exmpted from property tax, is it true?

Please help me on it.

Thanks in advance.

Jameel replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 12:18 AM PST 

If it is not an approved society then it is an area under registrar [patwar Khana] No tax means no Tax in Form of CVT and stamp duty that is correct,
As per rules any of your attorney can transfer the plot in your name. But he should be a trustworthy person. He will act on your behalf and sign the deal. It will a difficult procedure and will have your name but your attorney's signature on registry. For this you will have to make Mukhtar Nama Khas from Embassy stating that this attorney is only authorized to Make purchase in my name [nothing else]
Other illegal option is to get papers signed by yourself by courier, and get a lawyer/agent to complete the deal. It will carry your signature on Registry but will also [illegally] show that you appeared in front of Magistrate. This can be challenged by anyone in future to prove that you were actually not there in that time.

I myself will never advise to do deal like this best thing can be do good amount of Biana and get the things done by yourself when you can reach Pakistan.
Last advice is never get it transferred to any one else whom you not intend to gift the property forever, no matter how good the deal is.

AQ replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 03:35 AM PST 

Mr.Jameel Sahab,

Jazzak Allah and thanks a lot for guide.

My brother is dealing all this and he is like my father and I can fully trust him.

He is paying advance and in few days he will pay full payment and seller will sign on the registry and I will be there in 2-3 months then i will tranfer it to my name, do you see any issue on that?

for question to tax was mean property tax annual?
How can we verify that there is no loan against property or ther issues. Mr. Jameel i really appericate your help and guide on it.

Thanks.

AQ replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 03:36 AM PST 

It is house not plot.

Jameel replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 04:32 AM PST 

property tax is not related to Taxes at time of transfer, usually 5 Merla house Does not have property tax unless rented or used or located in commercial area, normally it is Nominal and in good area it just 2 thousands for 10 Merla per year.
For registry type area it is difficult to verify loan, One have to deposit original registry in Bank to get loan, and Bank Inform the registrar office that there is loan on the property. As Patwar Khana system is full of corruption so one can pay some thousands to Patwari not to disclose this information.
In this case it is very Important to recognize and understand original registry. If it is duplicate or called Naqal which every owner can request from Court then it is advisable not to do deal. So it is very important to understand papers.
In regulated society you pay major amount in front of transfer officer in form of Pay order, The Transfer officer's Job is to get the File of Property and study it then see and verify the Originality of Papers of seller and recognize seller in person by ID. when these things are done then you can give Pay order, These officers are expert and reliable so chances of deception are less.
In case of Patwar Khana the actual transfer takes place months after payment. The Court Registry does not verify originality of seller or his documents, neither Court have previous record. A Max they ask for Fard which is proof of ownership.
I dont know why you are doubting about loan if there is news like this it leaks

AQ replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 07:42 AM PST 

Thanks Mr.Jameel, This my first purchase in life and worried.
I think they have original Registry so if it is original then there is no chance for loan against property.
Thanks a lot.
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(54576)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:38 PM PST 
Required info

Does tax apply on 10 marla plot? How much tax applies on it? Does it also apply on under development plots?

Any help will be appreciated?
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(54575)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 09:21 PM PST 
Fortress Square

Please advsie me the price of Shop in Fortress Square.
How many floors? How many shops/Floor?
What are the shop sizes avaiable?
When the possession will be provided?
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(54574)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 08:16 PM PST 

Dear LRE Team,

I am a oversees Pakistani, I need 10 Marla plot in DHA Phase – 8, my budget is 2.5 million rupees including (Transfer fee + Agent commission) and Exclude Development charges that I can pay in installments. Please advise I will get in phase 8 or need to move in phase 7?

Best Regards
Ali (Saudi Arabia)
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AS replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 09:14 PM PST 

Plesae also advise, 10 Marla plots are available in which blocks of Phase 7?

Lahore Real Est replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 09:30 PM PST 

Dear Sahib,
your budget for phase 8 10M plot is short.you must go to phase 7. 10 marla plots are in T,U,X and y block

Salman@LREPK.Com
03004009967
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(54573)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 05:53 PM PST 
DHA 8 V plot valuation

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Features
For Sale
lahore
dha
8
v
278
1k
corner
What should be the current market price of this plot? Thanks

Ch Saeed replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 01:23 AM PST 

Respected mr awan
DHA Phase 8 V 278 Corner current market price is around 72 Lac
if want to sell so
contact us
ch saeed
03224333661
Email saeed@LREPK.COM

inam replied on Tuesday, October 2, 2012 04:36 AM PST 

Dear Awan

I am interetsed to buy this plot if you want to sale
contact to me as I am direct buyer and wish to build home there.

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(54572)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 04:55 PM PST 

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
For Sale
lahore
dha 5
extension
Dear friends

Any one who knows phse 5 extension area please advise if plot #301/M/Phase 5 etx is near village or near askari 11
The plot is avaiable for sale

sheikh replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:17 PM PST 

301 is near village
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(54571)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:05 AM PST 

Dear You just add 500 extra cost to Basement covered area only not to all Ground and First Floor, Basement structure is expensive as it is RCC from Down to sides.
3300 Looks too small covered area if it is 3 Floors, Keep some Money for Boundary and sides other than covered areas Plus water Tank gate etc It may Cost Min 10 Lac More Plus connections
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(54570)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 02:55 AM PST 
DHA VALLEY (DEFFODIL BLOCK)

Hi,

Please tell me Dha Valley Deffodil block is good or no, and market price.

Thanks,

Ashraf

Arshad Ch replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:43 PM PST 

Well I met the authority in DHAI few days ago and inquired about DHA Valley. He told me that their is no change as far as DHA is concerned. The project is up and running and the work is going on as usual. There is no plan for reducing the number of sectors as a rumour was floating in the market.As most of the plots have been alloted to lower ranks of Army who are quite close to heart of COAS, there fore development work is going on with full speed. Since it is a huge project of almost 55000 Kanals, development will certainly take some time.
This is to quell rumours about reducing number of sectors in the DHA Valley project.
Regards to all.

Ahmed replied on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:05 AM PST 

Could you advise that who did you meet in DHAI? What was their response on delay and what did they say about timelines?
Thanks,

sohail haider replied on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:24 AM PST 

Dear Ch sb

U r true in this saying that " There is no change as far as DHA is concerned"
coz change was imposed by court and land onwers. Due to dam issue and not acquization of land the certainity of some blocks is doubt ful , and lower cadre officials were allotted plots bcoz they will readily shift to this site who else wanna come at a far located place ??????????
1st they said that they will give the possession in 2012 and now 2013.
DHA is totally not concerned about the common person indulgement and sufferings.They should clear their position regarding the possession and development.
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(54569)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 02:36 AM PST 

Friends I want to buy a house between 5 & 8 Marla in G-10 and my budget is Rs. 8 Million and house not less than 3 beds and not more than 4 beds. Can anyone tell,is it possible? If so, please guide me?
I am looking for the house for peaceful living in the capital for the education of my childerd and not to rent.
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(54567)
Sunday, September 16, 2012 01:50 AM PST 
Please suggest me best investment opportunity

Dear LRE Members,

I wanna invest 15-18 lac rupees in property for 3 years time with some good return. I shortlisted some schemes but still confused. Based on your experience, please suggest me what are the best option in this range.

1.NFC phase 2 - one kanal
2.LDA avenue - 10 marla
3.Jubilee town - 10 marla
4.Bahria - 5 marla
5.DHA town - 5 marla
6. fazayia - 10 marla
7. any other better option.

Many thanks in advance.

Muhammad Khurram replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 01:10 PM PST 

Dear all i am waiting for your suggestions or comments. Please feel free o make ur comments. Thanks.

Ahmad replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 01:20 PM PST 

Go for Jubillee town which is inhibited. NFC far away in inhabitation (population)may be as far as 10 years. LDA is littigation. Baharia future is in doldrum. Fizaia and DHA I have not visited.

Waseem replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 02:01 PM PST 

With regards to NFC2 I agree with Ahmad.
Have visited last week NFC2 thru Multan Road. It really felt me very far away (around 18 KM from Thokar). Lot of developed societies are available alongsite the canal which should be preferred than this far away located NFC2. Developement is in progress but even if it gets ready in coming three years..... It will take 12 to 15 years to get populated.

Muhammad Khurram replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 06:04 PM PST 

Thanks for valuable comments. More comments from members are still awaited. Thanks

lahore lover replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 06:02 PM PST 

Muhammad Khurram Sb!

I have posted almost similar question, my budget is 2 million.

Bahria Town: 1 or 2 guys recommend Bahria but I personally I don’t want to go with bahria.

NFC Phase 2: couple of users recommend NFC phase 2, but here I’m observing that Ahmad and Waseem both are not recommending NFC phase 2 for 3 years time of investment.

Fazaiya: one expert recommended 1 kanal for faziaya and not 10 marla.

Rest of the societies are:

LDA Avenue – 10 marla

10 marla in LDA Avenue in J-Block, I hope in 1/2 years time they will give the procession to F and J block. If you are ready for some headache and uncertainty then you can try LDA avenue.

Jubilee Town – 10 marla

In Jubilee Town is good as 10 marla procession plots are available,
location is not that bad, approach is through canal, defence road and raiwind road through LDA avenue.

DHA Town : 5 marla

It starts from 19.5 to 25. I hope after 1 year it will touch 30. I’m not sure approach wise how good it will be. Someone else can comment on it. but if you wanna purchase for investment purpose and it will give good return in 2 to 3 year time.

I think Mr habib and Mr. Jameel can add their comments to help you for this decision.

Muhammad Khurram replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 09:11 PM PST 

Lahore lover thanks a lot for comment. Still i have a lot confusion in it as no one has concluded whats the best choice among these.

Mr. Jameel and Habib please share your thought in this discussion.

Thanks to all.

lahore lover replied on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:00 PM PST 

Dear Muhammad Khurram

I agreed with you. If any expert comment with some detailed reason then it will be great help for both of us and also lot of other users who has limited budget for investment and looking for suitable option.

Thanks

Dawood replied on Thursday, August 15, 2013 03:20 AM PST 

NFC 2 is the best option! and has doubled since this post and still has potential.

Dawood replied on Thursday, August 15, 2013 03:20 AM PST 

NFC 2 is the best option! and has doubled since this post and still has potential.
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(54565)
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:44 PM PST 

Javaid sahib, Thanks for sharing. It is very helpful indeed and please keep posting it periodically.

Other Brothers, If you know any error(s), please make correction by giveing some logical argument. Saying "it's totally wrong" or "these prices are far more than the market" is not a amicable response.

Any rates posted on the website are "rough order of magnitude" only. For example in D-12 a 40 * 80 plot was sold on my street for 162.5 million (vs range 11 - 15 million posted by Javaid bhai). It's public record and anyone can validate with CDA. Javaid bahi had given "ranges". I am sure some other plot of the same size had for less than 11 million, in this sector/category.

In any case, these are "ranges" and exceptions are always there. When some one does a good faith job, such as by posting these rates, please encourage vs. being antagonistic.

Another example of this negativity is when Mr. ZNS posted pictures of Bahria Enclave (post#60902), some of you started accused him of promoting Bahria. Some times I don't understand this desi mentality :-(

kc replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:48 PM PST 

This post was in response to "CDA Rates" posted by Javaid Kiani sahib
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(54564)
Saturday, September 15, 2012 09:57 PM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 8 Development Update 15th September 2012.

The DHA Lahore Phase 8 development work in T, U, V, W and Y block is going on at fast pace. Right Now there is no development work in X and S block .Currently NLC is working on Ground Leveling in all blocks. The T block Village will be there in future.

The Plots near nearest to Broadway in W and T Block has got maximum gain due to this Development work but other plots are also selling at premium depending on location. The S block is still undervalued and will get gain because it is closer to Lahore School of Economics and Main Boulevard and commercial. The Commercial rates are also very healthy but trading is slow because of difference between demand and offer.

Lahore Real Est
Lahore Real Estate
email : Salman@LREPK.Com

Chaudhry brothers replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 09:00 AM PST 

Dear Mr. Salman
What is the future of X Block, specially 100ft road plots facing village? I have one between , can u please give estimation of that plot? should i keep this or sell it?

Regards,

Chaudhray brothers

Ahmed replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:14 PM PST 

Can you upload some pictures of the Development work in the mentioned blocks.

and when do you think the W block will be given in possession of the owner.
What about the CCA2 in W block will that also be developed in W block , may be in 2 more years or it will take 3 years more to get possession.

Farooq replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 04:01 PM PST 

I dont think X block is good for living and investment due to many pockets in this sector,may be W,T will be goo for living but DHA 8 is already overpriced.

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Lahore Real Est replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 08:08 PM PST 

@ Chaudhray brothers

X Near between 1090 to 1100 can be sold around 65 to 68 Lacs. It is very hard to stand buyer of such locations.The X block pockets may or may not be cleared in future but cant predict at moment. DHA buy more time for clearance of pocket therefor they do not start development there right now.

@ Ahmad,
If DHA keep development process continuous then there is possibililty of possession in 2014 or early in 2015 of W block but nothing is confirmed until announce officially.CCA 2 is also developed with W block.CCA 1 work is not started yet.

Lahore Real Est replied on Sunday, September 16, 2012 08:09 PM PST 

@ Chaudhray brothers

X Near between 1090 to 1100 can be sold around 65 to 68 Lacs. It is very hard to stand buyer of such locations.The X block pockets may or may not be cleared in future but cant predict at moment. DHA buy more time for clearance of pocket therefor they do not start development there right now.

@ Ahmad,
If DHA keep development process continuous then there is possibililty of possession in 2014 or early in 2015 of W block but nothing is confirmed until announce officially.CCA 2 is also developed with W block.CCA 1 work is not started yet.
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(54563)
Saturday, September 15, 2012 09:51 PM PST 
E-12 G-14/3,2,1

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
For Sale
Islamabad
G-14
E12
E-12 G-14/3,2,1

Are there any concerns in buying a corner or prime location plot in undeveloped sectors for change/revision of maps or change of location of plot?

I mean if u pay extra cost for a special plot now and by the time it comes to posession, can FGECHS OR CDA change ur plot location?

For example they have substantially revised G14 map so many new plots r created resulting in some corner plots to become general plots.

Can the experts or experienced people shed some light on it. I m planning to buy a prime location plot in g14/2 but am converned if FGECHS can change its location or create mpre plots next to it?

Cheers

jk replied on Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:31 PM PST 

Yes the plot can be changed from corner to ordinary Unless FGECHS have not charged OR you have paid the extra cost for plot being corner.
those who have corner plots have to pay 10 % extra at final stage.

If you are buying and paying extra for corner the money will go to the seller's pocket and not to FGECHS.
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(54562)
Saturday, September 15, 2012 06:37 PM PST 

Plot For Sale DHA Lahore Phase 8
:pkf

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 948 @ 58 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 444 @ 72 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 1026 @ 68 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 1053 @ 70 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 933 @ 58 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 427 @ 72 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near S 335 @ 70 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 81 @ 83 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 816 @ 78 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 175 @ 75 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 1162 @ 88 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 1380 @ 86 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 670 @ 73 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 657 @ 70 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near T 235 @ 66 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 1225 @ 64 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 245 @ 80 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 734 @ 100 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 675 @ 80 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 381 @ 82 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 245 @ 80 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near U 87 @ 78 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near v 385 @ 85 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near v 1180 @ 67 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near W 804 @ 90 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near W 160 @ 95 Lac 1 Kanal Corner

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near W 182 @ 92 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near W 138 @ 95 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 1111 @ 75 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 129 @ 75 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 426 @ 77 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 590 @ 69 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 529 @ 72 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Near X 172 @ 3 Lac Own 10 Marla

LAHORE REAL ESTATE

Ch Saeed

Cell:03224333661

EMAIL:saeed@LREPK.COM
:forsale: :forsale: :forsale:
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(54561)
Saturday, September 15, 2012 05:55 PM PST 

:pkf

Dear INFO

Kindly asses the following property & update about their current market value accordingly
Statelife housing scheme_ Phase 2_ Lahore
Plot: BB 460 – 1 KANAL
Plot: EE 1196 – 10 MARLA
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