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Milo

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:34 PM PST

Reply:

Dear CMY,
Can you please tell me the current value for DHA PH-7 : 56-R?
As it is close to a graveyard, Is it worth to keep it for long term or should I move to Ph-6 or PH-8?

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:50 PM PST

R56 of DHA 7 is worth Rs 52 lacs. It ok to keep this plot but no a ideal plot for long term hold.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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Ali Doha

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:30 PM PST

Reply:

Dear CMY

One my friend having one Plot Near DHA 8/U/426 on installments , please evaluate this market price.
Regards

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 06:12 PM PST

U 426 of DHA8 could be sold at 2.5 to 3 lacs profit on paid amount.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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Jameel replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 05:51 AM PST

CMY how cash plot in similar area

(47862)

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:12 PM PST

Reply:

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Size

Cur. Rate

LHR

SUI GAS 2

Salam Alikum,

CMY saheb,

I bought 1 kanal plot in sui gas ph 2 for 10 lac rs three years ago in block E plot 557..what is the future of this scociety? is it worth it to hold? or can be swap for other better society?

Pls help

Regards,

YK

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 07:21 PM PST

I am sorry I am not updated for this scheme.

http://www.pakistanproperty.pk/comment.php?gb_id=64762

Lahore123 replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:30 PM PST

If u can wait for 5-10 years then hold that.Other wise switch u property to some other society.

(47861)

LRE Rates Update

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:09 PM PST

Reply:

Lahore Property Prices by Lahore Real Estate May 18, 2011

Lahore Property Prices by Lahore Real Estate May 18, 2011
DHA Lahore allocation files rates.

DHA Lahore Parkview 10 marla is available at 13.25 lacs (Very Rare Trading. On 2 3 files bought sold monthly)
DHA Lahore Parkview 1 kanal is available at 19.65 lacs(Very Rare Trading. On 2 3 files bought sold monthly)
DHA Lahore 5 ext 1 kanal is available at 26 lacs (More Buyers than sellers)
DHA Lahore 9-10 1 kanal is available at 15.40 lacs(More sellers than buyers)

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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Wasim - KSA replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:34 PM PST

Dear CMY,

I have 3 million of hard earned rupees and my desire is yet to have a kanal plot in DHA. I am not in hurry to build house and can wait 5 to 10 years easily and can hold the investment.
What would you recommend me DHA 7, DHA 5 ext or DHA 9 and why.
Help me please to make up mind.

Thanks.

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:38 PM PST

DHA Lahore 9-10 1 kanal is available at 15.30

CMY replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 01:11 PM PST

Wasim sahib you may have to increase budget to 35 lacs. In that budget go for DH Lahore phase 7 ready plots in T or U blocks.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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(47860)

Bukhari

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:07 PM PST

Reply:

Dear CMY Sahib,
Would you please tell me the current market price of plot # 903 X-bloch, phase-7.
I will also appreciate your valued suggestions whether I should keep this plot, or sell it and puchase another plot in phase 6 or 8.

Thanks and regards,

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:35 PM PST

This plot can be sold at 47 lacs. This plot is in clear area but under this plot there are some pockets of un possessed land. It suggested that you switch this plot for a DHA6 plot if possible to add more funds.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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(47859)

ReadyAppleGo

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:58 PM PST

Reply:

Need advise about House Contsruction

AA All,

Inshallah after Ramazan i am planning to construct my 1 Kanal plot in Izmir. I need the advices from respected readers about construction. Is anyone know about what is the process of Valancia/izmir society for map approval and charges. Should i also get approval from LDA or from society is enough. What are the LDA charges . i have to arrange the money . so therefore i want to get an estimate. How much money is needed for 1 Kanal Single Story house?

Thanks in advance

I believe mostly pakistanis are very helpful except our politicians.

Farooq replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:49 PM PST

Dear approval from LDA take only transfer letter, id , possission letter and id copies and also 5 copies of submission plan and go to LDA one windiw cell they will charge Rs, 2/Sft and they will take almost 25 days to approval. for construction you can say 3000 sft covered area for single story cost near about 40 lac a class. if you need more info email me on homedesignconsultants@gmail,com thanks

mr ahmed replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 08:04 PM PST

i have also plot in IZMIR town in f block and i also think about construction start after 3 months when summer is gone....plz tell me all details about map approval and possesion i ask a relative which residence in izmir they tell me there is no much issue a good architect pass map from lda easily...urgent possesion is available by izmir society between max 15 to 30 mins.....

LRE Hot Topics replied on Friday, May 20, 2011 12:28 AM PST

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(47858)

Jahanzed Daad

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:20 AM PST

Reply:

wanted to buy 1 Kanal Plot in DHA Phase II Ext Islamabad

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Wanted

Islamabad

DHA Extension

I want to buy 1 Kanal plot size in DHA Phase II Extension. Please tell me the prices.

(47857)

Dr Irfan

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:19 AM PST

Reply:

Dear CMY sahib
What is the status of development work in Block X in phasee 7. What is the future of a pocket in this block.

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:13 PM PST

There are large size pockets and small village in this block. You are advised to sell this plot asap as buyers now want to see the plot before finalizing deals.

Some development work can be seen in upper part of DHA7 X block where there are no pockets.

Upper part of W has pockets. Upper middle of V block have huge village named Chak Deera. U has small village under it. T have small village in lower part. Q have some pocket near commercial area. P have pocket of un possessed land in lower part like in Park. R have small graveyard in middle. Y and Z are mostly cleared and leveled plots but pockets are not visible yet as it hard to reach deep inside them due to lot of development work there.

Ch Mujahid Yasin
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Habib replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:35 PM PST

Your Plot is either laying on the Pocket or very Close to it, Chances of Later are more, There are 100% Chances that this small village which have about 75 House and some big Deras will not be relocated, Best Option for you is to suffer lesser loss and buy in some clear avearge location or good location plot.
I tell you my own experience
once I Bought a plot on bad Location just 2 lac Cheaper than avearge plot, in few years that difference became 12 lac, later I regretted why i saved 2 lac at that time.

LRE Hot Topics replied on Friday, May 20, 2011 12:28 AM PST

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Shahid Alvi

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:18 AM PST

Reply:

Develpment work Status in DHA phase 2 Ext Islamabad

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City

Wanted

Islamabad

I wanted to know what is the development work status in DHA Phase 2 Extension. Is this the good time to buy a plot over there ? Please suggest

abc123 replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:54 PM PST

I'd recommend IBECHS Phase III (Gulberg Islamabad) which appears to have more prospects than DHA-2 extension. DHA-2 ext. will perhaps take more time to accomplish advantages.

Tahir replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:06 PM PST

This area will shape up in more or less 4 years and the property appreciation/worth and living standard will be much higher in DHA-II extension than any of the nearby private housing schemes. I think this is the time to buy in DHA-II Extension. Most importantly, do your own research to finally decide.

Asad Ahmed replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 01:36 PM PST

Well please see that till the time Malik Riaz'S Bahria is fully developed & sold no hope for phase 2 ext ,so it can take 5 years or 15 years i can not say as the entire DHA management follows his orders for reasons we all know see for your self then do any investment

Syed replied on Thursday, September 8, 2011 03:06 PM PST

I suggust you to buy in Gulberg phase 3 Islamabad because Govt. Deptt. IB give the plots to their employees in a very cheap rate and now a days they are selling in very low own rate. After December 2012 the cost of the plot will multiply minimum 4 times.

(47855)

Shahzad

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:24 AM PST

Reply:

Looking for good 1 kanal plots in DHA lahore Phase 6

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Size

Wanted

Lahore

DHA

1 kanal

Hi, I just came across this site recently and found it useful. I am not in Pakistan at the moment but have plans to come back soon. I am actually looking for 1 kanal residential plots to buy in Phase 6. My budget is just upto 70-72 lac rupees. Can anyone suggest which blocks have still got some good location plots in Phase 6 at the moment. I also wanted to confirm if phase 6 is a good area to live after 3 4 years? Someone suggested me L block in phase 6, I am not sure about it. Can anyone suggest please which blocks should I be looking for. In DHA map, L block seems fine as its near to Golf course. Please also tell me about block K? Can someone give me price for plot L 198 and L 914 please.
I hope I`ll get some positive response in detail soon.
Thanks in advance!

Buttsab replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:32 AM PST

Dear,
u should go for L194 ITS 67-70 L today.
Big advantage is is Beacon house school campus in front of L block more chances of gaining in future.

Abdul Salam replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 09:49 AM PST

Decide quickly...buy anywhere in Phase 6. All assesments and analysis will become modified with the passage of time...go for a low rate plot.

SHAHZAD SAB replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:45 PM PST

Contact With CMY.

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block L Near-1336 1 k @
DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block L Near-197 @
DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block L Near-191 1 K @
DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block L Near-997 1 k @

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zahid M khan

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:08 AM PST

Reply:

FOR URGENT SALE

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Block

Size

Demand(Rs)

Features

For Sale

LAHORE

EME

1 K

145 LAC

6 BED ROOM

want to sale urgent.im a owner.only serious buyer contact.excellant home to live and for rent purpose. :forsale: :forsale: :forsale: :sh: :sh:

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MIAN JUNAID

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:50 AM PST

Reply:

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Size

Road

Demand(Rs)

Features

For Sale

LAHORE

SHAD BAGH

MAIN ROAD SHAD BAGH

32 MARLA

SHER SHAH

CALL for demand

MAIN COMMERCIAL ROAD

I have 32 marla commercial property in shad bagh on Main road between 2 MARRIAGE HALLS Named ( SUBHAN MARRIAGE AND EVAN-E-KHAS MARRIAGE HALL )................
Kindly interested will only contact
MIAN JUNAID:
MR. HAMZA:

(47852)

mian

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:41 AM PST

Reply:

assesment

Dear CMY
Would you please tell the current market price of my plot no.410-L phase 6 DHA Lahore.
Thanks&best regards

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:25 PM PST

410-L phase 6 DHA Lahore corner is worth Rs 80 to 82 lacs.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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Raheel

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:21 AM PST

Reply:

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

Size

Dealing

Rawalpindi

Bahria Town

All

Hi There,

Can Any One provide an idea of price in Bahria Town Phase 8.
If possible then please mention block wise like....
A 10 M=00000 to 00000
B 10 M=00000 to 0000
C 10 M=0000 to 0000
etc
Ali Block 5 M=0000 to 0000
Ali Block 8 M=0000 to 0000
etc

It will help many of us

SI replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:38 AM PST

Please mention one kanal rates also in A, B & C Blocks, are these blocks ready for construction ?
Tkanks

(47850)

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:02 AM PST

Reply:

re: Post Number 53225 (DHA Lahore Phase 8)

Dear all,
AoA,

1. It is not advisable to backfill & raise the level of an entire scheme/block from 685 to 701 or above because settlement of backfill over a long period of time will spoil entire investment by DHA or Individual house owners without any remedy.
2. The elevations recorded by our brother @Just Visitor are really very valuable & show that DHA 8 site is below all the adjascent/nearby other phases the designer of the Sewerage/Storm water drainage system will have to take into account not only the maximum rain & catchment srea of the Phase 8 but also any possible inflow of rain/stormwater from nearby phases & design the system accordingly.
3. It is possible that DHA 8 will need its own dedicated Swerage Treatment Plant due to low level of the phase.
4. Beauty of houses on both sides of the Broadway is, of course, important but the Main Target of the design has to be "No Nonsence" living for all the times to come.
I do not know whether Broadway is a highway or an internal road of the Phase 8. I live in UAE & here all the Housing schemes along highways are usually build a bit away from the highway with houses backside facing the highway. This saves the residents from noise of traffic & other traffic related problems.
5. I belive DHA are capable & will do the job right.
6. I respect & appreciate the contribution of all visitors of this site.
This site is not only Informative but Educative as well.

Kind Regards.

FH. replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:34 AM PST

Dear AG,.Regarding no.3,1st in DHA, own dedicated Swerage Treatment Plant is near completion in Phase-8 (Parkview Block-A.)for only Parkview.
Regarding No.4 , It is Lahore not DUBAI, both sides open houses are un-safe, anybody can climb in from one side and escape from other side and you cannot cover very long distance while chasing through entry/exit points to see the other side of house

Jameel replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:25 AM PST

AG thanks for your informative analysis, I think now most of experts of this forum agree that DHA 8 will be developed at 8 to 10 feet lower level, As I had noticed in my Visit that so much Civil engineering work was needed to make DHA 8 that you Could make a dam in that much Labor.
Now Biggest question is DHA is experimenting first time this approach, other relatively poor societies have already done like this, If you see On Canal side many unknown societies you see their level is about 6 to 8 feet lower than Canal road, Sewage disposal in Normal days is not a problem as you can pump it up to dispose in definitive sewage system , The only issue will be rain water, As pumping has soeme limit.
My biggest question is how market will rate DHA 8 in future, How you see it in investment point of view

AG replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:27 AM PST

@FH

Dear Sir, here in UAE houses along the highway are only one side open.
Secondly I am not aware of the ground realities at DHA8 including Parkview. My input was meant for the visitors of this site from engineering point of view. I meant to say the Engineering (Design) should be done for "No nonsence living for all time to come". Other things are secondary.

Kind Regards.

AG replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:37 AM PST

@Jameel

Dear sir, I regret that I am not qualified to comment on "How you see it in investment point of view?"

Jameel replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:48 AM PST

Ag you rightly pointed the fact but your Focus is only mian Bluvd Plots I am talking of whole phase, except few Blocks which are already on level.
Till now main Roads plots were being bought and sold on high premium, But if your Back faces main and also even a person walking on foot path have clear sight of your Backyard and back terrace then it is rather minus point , All these Plots on main now will be rated much less than plots located dipper.
In my opinion an average Plot of DHA 8 will Lose about 6 Lacs in average simply by the news of its lower Level and mian plots will be rated 5 lac further down.
However in that much time if in general market improves in all 6,7,8 then this effect might be buffered.

Khan replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 06:37 AM PST

Jameel Sahib
AOA
As you mention the plot are dipper than Main Roads also rated 5 lac further down.

Jameel sahib plots are backside of main roads will gain 5 lac
because these plots are porsh now.

Mr. FH explain very well when people walk on side walk they can
easily see your backyard. A lot of trafic and polution will go in
your home. Backside of main road plots have better look for privacy
and saftywise

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:34 PM PST

Friends AG and FH DHA 8 will have its own dedicated disposal system on back of U block ( Near plot no U816).

Looks like I have started an endless debate by pointing out two side open plots and depth issue of this phase :)

Trust me I am also learning few good things from this very useful topic.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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AG replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:03 AM PST

Dear All,

In housing schemes like DHA not many people walk on the footpaths for long distances. Further the floor plans of the houses can take care of this problem.
Pedestrian traffic along main roads will be negligible because of the fact the back of the houses will be facing them. People will walk only on the front side of the houses.Further the main roads are supposed to have Hard Shoulders instead of Footpaths for the pedestrians.

Trees/Plants around the doundry wall of the houses can take care of both ingress of dust/dirt & any possible Jahati by the pedestrians.

Where there is a will there is a way.

Jameel replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 01:37 AM PST

AG You can Put a Curtain on the Back side, or there Can be Hundred ways if One is determined to live there or have no other Choice, But we are discussing impact on investment price. These previously thought good locations will be considered bad now and will not attract any buyers.

AG replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 05:16 AM PST

@Jameel.

Perhapes you are right.

Fahad11s replied on Thursday, October 6, 2016 02:48 PM PST

CMY
A.o.A,
Sir, phase 8 ex-parkview ma boundary k pass kch plots ha D446- D451 tak unh k building procedure kya wo both sides par gate use karay ga ya 1 side par aur unh back faces plots ha tu unh value ktni iss effect ho gi.

(47849)

Ahmad

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:44 PM PST

Reply:

OFFICES FOR SALE IN SIDDIQ TRADE CENTRE, LAHORE

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

For Sale

Lahore

Siddiq Trade Centre

Gulberg

1 Office with 1280 SFT area, 2 Bathrooms, Kitchen, 2nd floor, facing Jail Road, is available for sale.
This office is already rented by a multinational company @ Rs. 55000/- per month.
The demand is Rs. 1 crore 15 lacs.

1 Office with 336 SFT on 4th floor, facing main boulevard with One bathroom and hall is available for sale. This office is already on rent by multinational company @ Rs. 20,000/- per month.
The demand is 30 lacs.

Please contact
Ahmad -

Khurram replied on Monday, June 27, 2011 01:53 PM PST

hi i am interested, that office for my personal use, i am looking around 22 lac, if you think i this possible plz contact me at Khurram

(47848)

Ahmad

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:36 PM PST

Reply:

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

For Rent

Lahore

Siddiq Trade Centre

Gulberg

843 SFT Apartment with One bed room,Two bathrooms and Kitchen at 5th floor is available for rent.
It is for the companies to open their offices.
The rend demand is Rs. 35000/- pm.
Please contact
Ahmad -

(47847)

Javed

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:16 PM PST

Reply:

Plot worth in Central Park

Dear CMY, I know this is a small property perhaps not worth your time, but I am living abroad and need to sell it urgently.

Could you please tell me how much is the cost of this plot? It is 680 Phase A. I have not yet got possession.

(47846)

Fakher-ul-Hassan

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:15 PM PST

Reply:

Bhatta Chock Opening,
Today Bhatta chock opened for traffic at 6.30 pm. Congrats to all travellars on that side.

Lahore123 replied on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:21 PM PST

Good to Hear this :)

eh replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:07 AM PST

Is it true that they have made 6 feet high walls on both sides of the road? I want to know about the road from Bhatta Chowk and DHA-1.

ali11 replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:49 AM PST

@eh,

No. who told you this ?????

eh replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 05:50 AM PST

Some one i was talking on phone told me that NHA is making walls on both sides of the new widened road, i.e. starting from DHA - 1 entrance to Bhatta chowk and beyond.

Please confirm what is the status if anybody has any update.

(47845)

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 09:41 PM PST

Reply:

D-12

For D-12:
- A little over a year ago, many did not believed that possession will ever be granted; WRONG, today 99 percent plots have possession

- Many on this site posted just in the past year that there is no evidence of sector development; WRONG, today most roads are completed, Grid station 100% completed and most all utilities are laid out and even electric connections will be grated soon

- Sometimes mid last years, many on this site claimed there was not even a single house under construction; WRONG, Today 40 plus homes are under construction

- Many on this site stated that prices in D-12 will go down; WRONG again, they have gone up instead

Conclusion: All speculation came out wrong to this date. The last speculation/argument by some that E-11 is a better sector than D-12 will also be proven wrong by the end of this year when there will be hundreds of homes in construction in D-12 and E-11 will show it's true face of an unorganized sector.

Any one can check with E-11 management that they tried to off load the sector to CDA at the end of last year, but CDA wouldn't take on the responsibility.

D-12 will finish this year and all you who object yet NEVER even intended to buy in that sector will be proven WRONG, once again.

Javid replied on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:06 PM PST

@ Dear gh,
Just ignore and forgive who were comparing D-12 with E-11.
Every one knows D-12 is far superior and so my friends who was writing in favor of E-11

Even though they live in UK, Holland or Islamabad but are resident of E-11 and we respect their love for their precious sweet homes, atleast they have pride of living in capital.

atiq raja. replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:04 AM PST

d/12 have very bad location i.e no proper connecting road,tail of islamabad and surrounded by thick populated villages.

Question replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:37 AM PST

@atiq raja. How about the location of G-13

Amjad replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:01 AM PST

I think D-12 location wise is good and also well planned but it has a limited approach and completely dependent on north west road of E-11. It can be a good sector if CDA complete development work and connect with margala road and khayaban e iqbal other wise it will look like an eiland. Please don't compare with E-11 because more than 60% houses are already built and hundreds of families are living there.

atiq raja. replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:21 AM PST

keep in mind up to 11 series sectors are considers in islamabad,all other sectors practically are not in islamabad these are just colonies because they are not directly connected to other sectors this is all due to cda

Aamir replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 01:23 AM PST

I am no fan or resident of E-11 but the fact is D-12 is an isolated sector with limited approach. As long as it is not connected by F-11 South service road or with Margla road it will remain disconnected.

Javid replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:08 AM PST

When friends say there is no proper access for D-12 and it is only through North West road of E-11.
Don’t they know the same road is access of E-11 as well?

If D-12 is surrounded by villages but it is not part of Village like E-11 is of Gollra

Come on friends you can not hide the reality and have to admit D-12 is a full CDA sector and have beautiful land scaping and full of scenic views.

Javid replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:26 AM PST

atiq raja @ Being admire of E-11 and getting stock with all your investment in AGOCH-II you would have learnt by now that you should not advice other in real-estate

gh replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 04:35 AM PST

Atiq Raja speaks with no logic. Comments such as 'd/12 have very bad location i.e no proper connecting road,tail of islamabad and surrounded by thick populated villages" shows lack of knowledge and bias as D-12 is connected by the same road E-11 is. Tail is far fetched as it is only 10 minutes from F6/F7 main area. Surrounded by thick populated villages is not true. There is only village on the west side and no more. E-11 has a village much ticker in the middle of it :-) Don't believe me,look at Google Earth and judge for yourself.

MAS replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:19 AM PST

SEVEN QUESTIONS FOR ATIQ RAJA

Dear Atiq I am sure you have been forthright and objective in all your writings over the last so many years. It however appears that you have always overlooked (by mistake of-course since you are a busy man)a few things. So let me ask you some specific questions as follows:

1. What is your opinion about the presence of Golra Village and its influence on the quality of E-11? Do you think Golra covers half of E-11 or less than half?

2. How many approach roads does E-11 have?

3. Do you think the same approach road that goes to E-11 turns towards D-12 or are they different roads?

4. Do you ever use Google Earth? If you do, do you see any "densely populated village" to the North, East or South of D-12? If not do you think the village on the West of D-12 "SURROUNDS" d-12? Does modern geometry make it possible to surround something from one side only?

5. What do you think about Saidpur village 200 meters north of F-6/3 and the Christian Colony in F-6/2? Have they spoiled all of F-6? If not why not?

6. Distance wise is the "tail end" sector of D-12 EXACTLY 4 Km from the nearest points of F-10 or F-11? This is just a yes or no question.

7. Do you think Islamabad sectors have grown gradually overtime like Nazimuddin road and Margalla road used to be single in the 1980's but later became double and CDA also added more roads like 7th and 9th Avenues. Is this how CDA sectors grow and develop over time?

Atiq Raja I expect that you will honorably and concisely address all above questions point by point so that there are no lacunae (gaps) left in your expert analysis. I am looking forward to benefit from your thoughts.

By the way in my humble opinion despite its imperfections and limitations E-11 is also a beautiful sector.

Mrs.Rukshanda replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 06:20 AM PST

D-12 sector has a very limited approach like sui gas housing society and DHA 5 extention Lahore. At present it looks an isolated sector but might be in 2020 when development work in E-12 will start then it can be a regular sector of Islamabad like F-10, F`11, E-11 etc.

atiq raja. replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 06:24 AM PST

1.golra is proper village having land record and exempted from master plan,now a days the people demolishing there houses and making markets, hospitals,schools the khudad height and shheen apartment and so many apartments are in glora because of exemption the land is more expensive than e/11 and d/12 you can not find a land on main road of golra like land front of dha11.
2.2 roads from margalla road.
3.same.
4.the illegal population around d/12 , now due to d/12 development the illegal population will grow rapidly like illegal population around g/11 and very dangerous like marebadi keep in mind golra is a legal village and sale and purchase is legal due to this is very expensive.
5.dont compare sadpur to marapadi or illegal villeges around d/12,sadpur is now controlled by cda but all dashat gard in merabadi and after d/12.

atiq raja. replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 06:37 AM PST

6.d/12 is not attach to any other sector due to this you can not calculate the distance
7. all are future plans the stupid cda is not able to do any think even to develop e/12,in political govt you can not remove thick illegal population.

Tahir replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:18 PM PST

All the assessments of real estate are function of:-
1. Personal preferences.
2. Priorities &
3. Affordability.
You people are simply convincing each other on all of the 1- 3 above which differs a lot with each individual. This is an impossible consensus.

gh replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 08:56 PM PST

Interesting discussion. Don't mean to change the subject but I had a funny experience during my last trip to Pakistan.

I was staying in a guest house in E-11 just to woken up with a sound 'tanga' at around 5:00 am. First I though I was dreaming. I said to myself, I am in Islamabad in a newest sector, surely there can be no 'tanga' around here. Next day the same and the day after I heard the same sound. The fourth day I decided to wake up earlier and go outside and observe. Sure enough there was at 5:00 am an good old Pakistani tanga. I stopped and asked the tange rider where it came from and the response was from the village in the middle of the sector.

With the development in the village pointed out by Atiq Raja, I hope the tanga does not disappear. Joke aside, I loved those sound. I think some where even in Quran it is mentioned (sound of horses' feet)

MAS replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:52 PM PST

Atiq Raja thank you for your response, your answers have given clarity to your position. Here is my understanding of the issue after taking into account your answers:

There are villages on the west of G-11, F-11 and D-12. You feel they all have same level of undesirability whereas you have differentiated Golra village on the basis that it is legal with land record. Okay, point noted. I don’t think a dense village like Golra can be physically altered significantly but legal is surely better than illegal so you have made a valid point. Thank You.

I don’t believe that D-12 will ever be surrounded by villages because the area to the east belongs to the Armed Forces. I cannot imagine they will allow any village to “rapidly grow” over there due to D-12. It is to be acknowledged however that D-12’s position is like F-11 both have one sub-sector touching village.

As for least distance between D-12 and F-10, it is exactly 4 Km as I described in my question. If you can drive from point A to point B you can also calculate the distance. As for future growth of that general area by CDA that is a matter of subjective assessment and vision. You are entitled to yours. All merits of D-12 remain intact (landscape, wide roads, planning etc). I hope readers have found this interaction constructive and not just an effort to win an argument. Regards.

gh replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 01:16 AM PST

To add to MAS's point, the area to the north is federally protected Margala Hills area and to the south in E-12, which from reading other posts appear to on-the-move for development soon. It is therefore reasonable to assume that D-12 will likely not have illegal bastis from at least three sides. It is also worth noting that D-13 is also CDA sector and could be cleaned up, though it might take two decades to do so.

MAS, I do like your objective analysis. We can all learn to follow and argue with logic, as you do. What drives me crazy is when people post their personal opinions without any rational ...

Amjad replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 06:06 PM PST

After this long discussion i have reached on this conclusion that at present E-11 sector is better to live and perhaps in ten years time when development work in E-12 and D-13 will be started then D-12 will be better than all these sectors.

Aamir replied on Thursday, May 19, 2011 08:45 PM PST

The owners of D-12 are very sentimental. Because, most if not all, purchased plots when the commencement of development work was announced in the past when the overall prices were ever highest in Pakistan. Now after paying such a high price, its been 5 years and the plot owners are still not able to live in D-12. Its very embarrassing and can only be defended on subjective arguments due to absence of something really on ground. I may condole you that basically its not your fault as such but the culprit is CDA. Instead of defending your decision based on something that was promised you should criticize CDA.
After this recent fake hype, once again the prices are in reverse gear as it happened many at times in the past. Anyway, best of luck I wish CDA must complete the development ASAP.

MAS replied on Friday, May 20, 2011 03:15 AM PST

Dear Aamir I thought I had done my very best to be as OBJECTIVE and honest as humanly possible. The reason to go into such a long discussion was to avoid the subjective part and separate the objective from subjective but if you did not get that impression from my writing then I have failed.

Aamir replied on Friday, May 20, 2011 03:54 AM PST

Now this post should be added to very hot topics.

Drawbacks of E-11 replied on Friday, May 20, 2011 05:20 AM PST

Drawbacks of E-11

- e/11 is developed by private societies and not by CDA. CDA refused to take over from societies due to the fact that they violated approved planning /map.

- Reserved plots for parks and green areas sold as commercial and residential plots, there is not a single park in whole E-11 sector

- Land for schools have been sold as residential and commercial plots, no school plot left on the map

- In all four sub sectors, land of nullahs have been filled, extra plots created and sold. This resulted heavy flood last year when these nullah over flooded and retaining walls were shattered. This is major concern which is till not sorted out.

- Improper development work was done. As a result this is the only sector in Islamabad where there are five story houses in deep excavation and some of the house has their ground floor door on their neighbour’s roof particularly in High Street where Raja Atiq lives!!!!

- Whole sector has only one accessible double road which is unfinished for the last three years due to litigation with local MNA

- Societies have barred open access in various parts of E-11 by putting gates on their boundaries

- Societies have imposed monthly service charges on account of street lights, waste, and drainage, where as there are no street lights in most of the areas, no waste disposal system in place, no proper drainage system with sewage inflow at most places.

- Lot of residential plots have been converted into commercial plot and there is litigation on this issue within societies

-Half of the roads are still kacha where houses are constructed years back and presently covered with heap of dust of kacha roads.

- Most of the houses are rented out by the owners because the present living conditions are not conducive, that’s why the rent is much less even that of G/11

Ali hamza replied on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 02:15 AM PST

Every 1 this guy Atiq raja is sick person so be aware of him.... 1 day he says DHA is best and 2nd month he says D-12, E-11 or G-13 is best. so please understand what he try to make of you guys...... better ask him how many plots he have in DHA lol.......... he is crazy , 1 time he don't count G series as sector and 2nd time he tells to invest........... one he call pakistan a hell and 2nd he keep telling people to invest, trust me he is sick and want to make money only.............