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   Shakil Ahmed Khan
Monday, September 14, 2009 04:44 PM PST 
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Urgent Shop for sale in Rabi Center, Gulberg
Ad Type
City
Scheme
Size
For Sale
Lahore
Rabi Center
10 by 10
Urgent shop for sale in Rabi center opposite Auriga center, Gulberg, Lahore
adnan replied on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 05:29 PM PST 

locstion and demand plz
i can offer 100000 if no lotogation
Shakil Ahmed Khan replied on Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:09 PM PST 

It is located on third floor.....give me some good offer...
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   LRE Rates Update
Monday, September 14, 2009 04:31 PM PST 
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Lahore Real Estat Market Pulse as of 2.35 Pm Sept 14, 2009
DHA Lahore Plots File Prices Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse

DHA Lahore Phase 5 M Block Allocation File buyers at 30 and sellers 30.25 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 21.50 Sellers(s) at 21.75 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File 1 kanal Sellers at 30.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Affidavit 10 Marla File Sellers at 22.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers at 19.85 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 33.90 Lacs Seller(s) at 34 Lacs.

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation file Buyer(s) at 26.15 Lacs Seller(s) at 26.25 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 18 Lacs Seller(s)at 18.25 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 14.05 Lacs Seller(s) at 14.15 Lacs


DHA Valley Islamabad open files 5 marla 4 paid sells at loss of = 35000 to 40000

DHA Valley Islamabad open files 8 marla 4 paid sells at loss of = 20000 to 25000

DHA Valley Islamabad Non open files 5 marla 4 paid sells at loss of = 40000 to 45000

DHA Valley Islamabad non open files 8 marla 4 paid sells at loss of = 35000 to 40000

DHA Islamabad Phase 2 extension lowest price certificate file is available at 10.15 Lacs


Bahria Town Lahore Sector C 10 marla 2 paid buyers at 1.99 sellers at 2.01 lacs

Bahria Town Lahore Sector C 10 marla 3 paid buyers at 2.71 sellers at 2.74 lacs

Phase 9 Bahria Town Rawalpindi Pakistan 10 marla 2 paid buyers at 1.44 sellers at 1.46 lacs

Phase 9 Bahria Town Rawalpindi Pakistan 10 marla 3 paid buyers at 1.93 sellers at 1.95 lacs

Bahria Town Phase 8 without devolepment charges General blocks other than A B D C 3.05 to 3.30 lacs for 10 marla

Bahria Town Phase 8 with devolepment charges cleared in blocks A B D C 8.00 to 9.35 lacs for 10 marla

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Aamir replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 11:02 PM PST 

Dear CMY: Would you please suggest lowest priced 10 Marala ready to construct in DHA.
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   Shakil Ahmed Khan
Monday, September 14, 2009 04:25 PM PST 
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Urgent Plot for Sale
Ad Type
City
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Phase
Block
Size
Road
Demand(Rs)
For Sale
Lahore
Central Park
1
D
10 marla
40ft
10 Lacs
I want to sale a plot in Central Park Society.Excellent location and great oppurtunity because it has been merged with DHA EME.
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   Metal Media Marketing
Monday, September 14, 2009 04:19 PM PST 
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need 10 Marla Plot
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LHR
Formanites
1
10 Marla
possesion
urgently required

10 Marla possesion plot in Block E , G or I near Main Entrance
Formanites Phase I


Rashid Mehmood
Safia replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 01:50 PM PST 

Sir I have a 10 marla plot in formanites phase 1 in possession area. Plot no is 78- M ( 50 feet Road). My Demand is 10 lakhs. If interested then contact me at
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   limo
Monday, September 14, 2009 02:44 PM PST 
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To continue with the useful discussion pertaining to solar energy, I would just like to share my experience with solar panel maintenance. These were solar heating panels that were installed by American company, as they were the ones who designed complete plumbing system for these villas. The system started malfunctioning soon after installation with no apparent reason. Since we were involved in the maintenance of the system and its successful operation as a whole, so we carried out an investigative study. Main causes found were

1.These panels were not located at correct solar angles. This was because architectural design was finalized without proper coordination with plumbing design team. Now whatever space and angle was available, panels were simply dumped there.
Then installer came up with an idea to equip all the solar thermal generators with expensive machinery to keep them pointed in the right direction with continually changing sun position in the sky.
The idea was turned down as in the same price a central hot water system could easily have been installed.
2.Some portion of these solar panels used to remain under shade of architectural features,trees, overhead water tanks,etc thus dramatically reducing the output.
Remember these solar panels are extremely sensitive to any kind of shading hence performance would reduce considerably even if a smaller portion of the panel is under shade.
3.Every alternate day we used to find all the panels surface completely covered with thin dust layer, birds shit etc. Since its was a coastal area (Yanbu), so most of the time condensation as a result of high humidity would make this dust stuck hard with the panel thus making it extremely difficult to remove, in fact we had to wash the panels every alternate day to keep the surface clean.
Also there were other associated problems with the sensor location, glazing seals not weather proof and tight thus allowing the system pressure to drop, air vent clogging, insulation worn out and circulation pump seals leaking etc.
We ultimately had to replace it with central hot water system.
What is worth noting here is that even with fully active and equipped maintenance staff, we could not successfully run it and once such a system is installed in our country (where one can hardly think of such a maintenance standards), how one can expect it to be a success.Lets ask ourselves, when do we mostly clean our A/C filter, only when we feel its not cooling properly.There is no concept of any routine preventive maintenance in our country.
Now when we talk about PV technology, it has its own pros n cons and the cons I put earlier well overweigh the pros. Honestly, I don’t see this PV technology (which is so costly 700 $ /MWh compared to Hydro 65 $ /MWh and payback time is 2 to 4 years) catching up any ground in Pakistan in near future, its just what the ground reality speaks, not the emotions.
We talk a lot about energy crisis, exploring new energy alternatives but never think about making the existing systems energy efficient. I will soon come up with few ideas about it.
Jameel replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 02:59 PM PST 

good useful information from a filed experienced person. last para is even better but you forget that not enough money can be made in over hauling the existing system rather getting the rental generators? who cares what would be the repurcussions since the public has to pay the cost.
M. Ali replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 10:53 PM PST 

Thank you Limo for your response, it was nicely detailed.

What I understood from your post above that the basic problem was the finalization of architecture design without coordinating with the plumbing/solar panel design team.

It appears that solar panels you worked with were not PV(photovoltaic) and you also provided the cost comparison between PV and Hydro very briefly.

Thanks again!
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   No way out
Monday, September 14, 2009 02:41 PM PST 
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I am married with 3 kids living abroad.My only elder sister arranged my marriage s my mother was no more at that time.My sister is my mother's place now and i give her tremendous respect.My wife is not ready at all to give respect to her and often uses abusive language about her.This is somethingthat is unbearable to me and i can go to any extent to get the respect of my mother like sister maintained.As a result of this tension between my sister and wife, my marital life is completely disturbed and kids are badly suffering.I have tried my best to solve the issue by involving my inlaws and other wise people of the family but to no vail.This is despite i give respect to my inlaws more than my own parents, provided a very high class living standards to my family, and time and again compromised on the issue because of kids, but there seems no end to it as my wife is too adamant.This excessive stress has deteriorated my health badly and i have become an acute anxiety patient.I will really appreciate if some wise friend could give a practical solution to this problem.Its too painful for me to see my kids suffering because of this.What does Islam say in such a situation, separation is no solution either as kids suffer, please help.
Administrator, please let it stay for a while till some viable solution comes, then delete it.Thanks
whatever replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:21 PM PST 

In islam, your mother has more rights then your wife.. but your sister has less rights then your wife.. you have to maintain this.. don't put your sister so high that, it become unbearable to your wife.. it is best to maintain the limit.. also, if your laws respect you then you should put this issue in front of this.. Only they can help you more then any.. also try to find any misconceptions between your sister and wife..

Any how, you still didn't mention what is the main reason of conflict. what you call respect? Taking orders from you sister isn't your wife duty.. But according to islam, your wife should be obedient to you.. Also, if this isn't the case, your wife over react without any reason, like your sister come to your house and she dis respect, or throw point on her that is also bad thing.. and against islam.. islam teaches us to respect the guest, especially your relatives..

Lastly, only you can find the solution, since you know the problem to be exact.. you have to listen and understand point of view of both sides.. I am like, when my wife say something for my mother, i come in front of her.. similarly if my mother does same, i try to protect my wife.. both thinks that i am on other side.. but in real i am neutral.. but i am choosing this attitude from the day one.. so everything is going according to my game plan.
ur friend replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:22 PM PST 

may be ur sister not properly treated to ur wife,misguiding u and getting benefit of ur great respect towards her.,
just manage with ur wife and kids, only give them priority,listen them properly ,
for example if u seprate ,then new woman and same story,then what would u do....

my advise is to pay ur maximum attention towards to family....

sincealry urs
Dr. A. M. Khan replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:25 PM PST 

While living abroad, I have been almost in the same situation like you. I talked with few friends and they are also suffering in the same situation. Mostly this women domination phenomena exists in western european countries where the situation is worst because of many facts (i.e limited/no education of our women, social welfare structure in europe, women want western style freedom, unequality of education between male and female, unavailability of parents/in-laws so no social pressure, accountability and many more...). To my understanding, the situation is worst where women are not educated and male is educated or visa-versa.
This is also the main reason of high divorce rate of Pakistanies in western countries because women dont behave the same way as they used to behave in pakistan. Women misused western freedom concept.
We have to pay the price of living abroad. Children are the main victims of parents conflicts. So, why should they suffer and this is the main argument in front of me and many others who have been thinking for divorce.
There is plenty of material to write on this topic and I cannot go into detail because time and web site does not allow me to write.
Friend, you have no choice but with limited surrender, patience and survival in this situation is the right direction. This is what I did. Other friends in this situation did the same, so you should follow similar track too.
Long term solution
I request to all, please educate our women they are still living in arrogance and in stone age.
WayOut replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:25 PM PST 

Brother,

You said your kids are already suffering so I suggest you divorce your wife as soon as possible. In my life, I have seen many cases where women have ruined families.

If you are in the Middle East you know it's a very easy procedure. If you are in the West best to hire a good solicitor. End of the day no one or any court can stop you from seeing your kids..... usually women threaten no access to kids.

I hope you will make the decision ASAP for your kids and your health sake. Remember you survived without your wife before you married.
One upset husband replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:03 PM PST 

I have two kinds (Daugher age < 2 year and son age is about < 3 months). I got married with highly educated girl who is doctor. My problem has some similarity with yours. I love my elder sister who sacrificied lot for me and still unmarried as similiary my mother who is great mother in this world. They both are very humble and supportive from my childhood and even after my marriage by all means and I respect and love them. Now I come to know that my wife does not like my such respecting and loving gesture to my family and she previouly tried her best to live separtely in one of his parents home which I did not accept on any cost.
Since I contribute about half of my salary in home expenses which now I come to know she does not like me to contribute. I as well as my mother and sister offered me not to contribute and run separate kitchen and other fairs and therefore I extended the same to my wife. When she calculated all the running expenses she refused to take this responsibility. She wants me to give her monthly pocket money whereas I have no budget and I even I am living every month with little borrowed money from sister or other sources. I do not spend a single peny on me and spend all on my wife and kinds needs. She seems to have superiority complex which is ruining our life and now I have fed up and stress out this continued situation. She becomes almost mad and talks very bad about my mohter and sister that they are sucking us etc but when she becomes normal she talks very high about them.
I am very upset that no body can image.
Can some one give solution
Well wisher replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:04 PM PST 

One thing i can suggest to ruined your family life since you have a kids , i have seen so many peoples took the hasty decesion and later on regrect the whole of life

Since you are living abraod the best way is try to explain your wife what you thinnk abut your sister , you may already done that but i think by givig a proper resons you can find a some solutions,


listen to her she may have a reasons, you can conclude some thing by clearing some of her issues with your sister , Till the dust is not setteled down the best way is they should not interact each other , avoid the this topic in the discussion


Divorce is not a solutios it will ruin kids and you more as i Know difficult to live without kids

Anger will spoil you
Anonymous replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:05 PM PST 

Usually women threaten that they will ruin the kids or hand over them to those whom you don't wish your kids to be with and will never allow you access to kids.
Can a woman barr her divorced husband to meet the the children? specially when father is willing ot provide a house and all boarding lodging expenses of children incl. divorced wife?
I agree with Dr. A.M.Khan, it happens in cases where men are educated and women are not. In case where women are more educated they have mostly better life, in any case man is never vicitimised as educated person is always reasonable.
Project 100 replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:09 PM PST 

My Dear,

There are many ways out.....

Would you mind reading a book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" written by Dale Carnegie. The book is available on major Book Stores. I believe, it will work for you. One forgives to the degree that one loves.

Thanks and Best Regards
Imran
Habib replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:30 PM PST 

Although each and every situation is different case to csae but I highlight few things which are helpful
Your wife respects your elders only if she respects you.
Strictly advise your wife not to have face to face arguments with your elders.
If your wife has some reservations against your elders listen calmly as you are understanding her but never discuss with your elders.
If you encouter a dominant and stuborn wife, but you have childeren as well and your wife has some other qualities never spoil your life that she is not respecting them. Respect and love is something from heart and you can never change that. Tell your wife only to maintain good working relations with your family.
Abdullah replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:52 PM PST 

Please understand following facts and you would be better-of inshallah:-

1. Rights of Wife are more than Sister in Islam, so please give your wife, her right. (if you want to respect your sister, its your choice, your wife does not have to do it)

2. Don't force your wife to respect your sister or vice versa, as respect can't be enforced, its always by choice.

3. If you want to help you sister, try not to tell your wife. There is no point a making official announcements if you want to give some financial help to your sister, as it would make things worse.

4. Talk to your wife when she is in a good mood (you might have to take her on holidays, as this is a norm in Europe etc) and then try to convey your feelings.

5. Please don't think of divorce as it would ruin your life, your wife's life and most importantly your kids life.

6. Here in the west, we can't force women to respect some one or server your sister/mother etc (neither Islam allows). Its the duty of man to server his parents/siters etc but not wife. Wife has the duty to server her own parents and not husband's parents. If she does it its kind of her, and if not, a good husband can't force her.


7. Are you fulfilling her rights; (Please don't mind but this has to be taken into account) i.e. financial, psycholigical, giving her proper time (just coming back from office and watch tv is not giving her time), taking her to holidays, haq-zojaeet (marriage rights; its imprtant).

8. In Islam its not the right of wife to cook food for you, or wash your dirty clothes, or was after food. If she is doing it, its kind of her, but you can't force her. You have to pay if she doesn't agree to do all this. If she is doing it, try to acknowledge it.

9. Normaly it take two hands to clap, Please look for any right you are not fulfilling. Its important, talk to her and ask her what does she thinks about that and things might get clear.

10. Please ask help from Allah and say your prayers etc regularly.


Wish you all the best, may Allah help us all.

Best Regards
worldguy replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 05:30 PM PST 

Well said Abdullah Bhai.
Farid-UAE replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 06:27 PM PST 

Well, i think, some things also pertain to a woman's nature..Woman want the husband not to be good terms with his sisters and mother..It is ver common...

ALso, most wives does not want the husband to financially do anything for their parents or brothers/sisters. On ehas to ask them that if they expect the same from their son , not to support them if they need financial assistance.
limo replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 06:59 PM PST 

Habib made a very valid point that if your wife truly respects you, she would definitely give respect to your parents and other family members.And i personally believe that this is the first lesson that a girl is supposed to be taught by her parents while marring her that "you have to give full respect to each member of your inlaws" and this is the way she can quickly win the heart of her husband.
What Abdullah said is perfect too and exactly what Islam says BUT wont work out in our culture at all.Do we have a concept of "pardah from dever in our society" not offcourse.Islam asks to keep your wife in separate home, no joit family system at all. I have a childhood friend who is having a perfect married life, when asked the secret he told that my wife respects my parents and family members more that hers and i do the same too.Simple key, does not cost anything and yet assures a happy married life.At the end i would say divorce has never been a solution to such problems, one should never think on these lines.When no trick works, just take the things as your fate brother "no way out".
AS replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 08:52 PM PST 

Some W O M E N must offer their comments on this issue.
Shahid replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 09:24 PM PST 

Best advice is that from Abdullah. May Allah bless him for sharing his wisdom. All 10 points he mentioned are worth acting.
smone 2 smbody replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:05 AM PST 

its painful to see kids going through,but kids their own way of understanding.
i really wish to give you a suggestion but frankly there are many questions unasked.
like once smbody said (man has got to do ,what hes got to do)
use your own wisdom and bit of politics.)
overseas wisher replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 01:19 AM PST 

Women's brain is very very complicated and we all men can't understand it even after 40 years of marriage and Women will get you regardless of what you do.

In youe case,your biggest draw back is your sister so you need to stay away from your family as much as you can,this is hard fact but you have to swallow it.Try to help your wife's family as much as you can and this will improve your relation only.
AM replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 05:08 AM PST 

Assalam-u-Alaikum wr wb:

Brother, first of all,
1 - Ask Allah Subhana wa Tallah for help and make things easy for you and for your family.

2- Understand that family is most important thing in ones life. Divorce should only be last resort when nothing seems to work.

2- Understand the problem. What is main issue that your wife does not respect your sister.

3- Ask your self what could you do to make things better.
4- Your sister is also very important but not important enough to break your family.

5- Your wife and kids take priority over your sister but make sure they do not get wrong idea that they do not have to behave properly to your sister.

6- Ask your sister to be more cooperative and for any misbehave ask your sister to forgive you.

7- Try not to take sides.

8- Do not say anything to any party infront of any other party. Rather use seperate place and time to explain.

9- There is hadith of Propet Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, that woman is born from the rib of man. If you try to straighten it, it would break. So be wise.

10- Ask your wife what is minimal she could compromise on and ask your sister what is minimal on which she could compromise.


May Allah make things easy for you.
Remember kids are the most who suffer. If your wife respects you and love you, then be linient and do not be harsh on her due to this matter rather take a political and linient approach.
m.a.b replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:50 PM PST 

Chinese way out.
A long time ago in China, a girl named Li-Li got married and went to live with her husband and mother-in-law. In a very short time, Li-Li found that she couldn't get along with her mother-in-law at all.

Their personalities were very different, and Li-Li was angered by many of her mother-in-law's habits. In addition, she criticized Li-Li constantly.

Days passed days, and weeks passed weeks. Li-Li and her mother-in-law never stopped arguing and fighting. But what made the situation even worse was that, according to ancient Chinese tradition, Li-Li had to bow to her mother-in-law and obey her every wish.

All the anger and unhappiness in the house was causing Li-Li's poor husband great distress.

Finally, Li-Li could not stand her mother-in-law's bad temper and dictatorship any longer, and she decided to do something about it.

Li-Li went to see her father's good friend, Mr. Huang, who sold herbs. She told him the situation and asked if he would give her some poison so that she could solve the problem once and for all. Mr. Huang thought for a while, and finally said, Li-Li, I will help you solve your problem, but you must listen to me and obey what I tell you. Li-Li said, "Yes, Mr. Huang, I will do whatever you tell me to do."

Mr.Huang went into the back room, and returned in a few minutes with a package of herbs.

He told Li-Li, "You can't use a quick-acting poison to get rid of your mother-in-law, because that would cause people to become suspicious. Therefore, I have given you a number of herbs that will slowly build up poison in her body.

Every other day prepare some delicious meal and put a little of these herbs in her serving. Now, in order to make sure that nobody suspects you when she dies, you must be very careful to act very friendly towards her. Don't argue with her, obey her every wish, and treat her like a queen."

Li-Li was so happy. She thanked Mr. Huang and hurried home to start her plot of murdering her mother-in-law.

Weeks went by, and months went by, and every other day, Li-Li served the specially treated food to her mother-in-law. She remembered what Mr.Huang had said about avoiding suspicion, so she controlled her temper, obeyed her mother-in-law, and treated her like her own mother. After six months had passed, the whole household had changed.

Li-Li had practiced controlling her temper so much that she found that she almost never got mad or upset. She hadn't had an argument with her mother-in-law in six months because she now seemed much kinder and easier to get along with.

The mother-in-law's attitude toward Li-Li changed, and she began to love Li-Li like her own daughter. She kept telling friends and relatives that Li-Li was the best daughter-in- law one could ever find. Li-Li and her mother-in-law were now treating each other like a real mother and daughter.

Li-Li's husband was very happy to see what was happening.

One day, Li-Li came to see Mr. Huang and asked for his help again. She said, "Dear Mr. Huang, please help me to keep the poison from killing my mother-in-law! She's changed into such a nice woman, and I love her like my own mother. I do not want her to die because of the poison I gave her."

Mr. Huang smiled and nodded his head. "Li-Li, there's nothing to worry about. I never gave you any poison. The herbs I gave you were vitamins to improve her health. The only poison was in your mind and your attitude toward her, but that has been all washed away by the love which you gave to her."

MORAL: Brothers and Sisters have you ever realized that how you treat others is exactly how they will treat you?

There is a wise Chinese saying: 'The person who loves others will also be loved in return.'
Rana replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 06:31 PM PST 

Excellent solution from WHATEVER and totaly stupid attitude from WAYOUT.
Anonymous replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 09:36 PM PST 

Dear someone 2 somebody, you are right but in reality man has other things to do... if he is a professional competing with whole world than he need support from family or he may loose his mind and related consequences.
IMO, Divorce is the best option once all efforts has been exhausted but it is too complicate to execute.
It influence your own brothers and sisters life and your parents cannot imagine to loose their grand children and infect it is one's own parents which suffer most from divorce of his son.
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   Abdul
Monday, September 14, 2009 02:31 PM PST 
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I am not supporter of PPP at this time but very much inspire from Zulfiqar Ali Bhottu Some one likes him ot not but this is History therefore I humbly request not to delete this
Javid Choudhary in programme Aaj Tak quoted

Once Mr. Kanedy foreign minister of USA said to zulfiqar Ali Bhottu if you were American citizen you would have been our minister in reply Mr. Bhottu said if I was American citizen I would have been your president.

In other occasion when Bhatto was in white house he being told that he is in the most powerful office of a powerful country. In reply Mr Bhottu said and this powerful office is under my shoes now

When Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto got assassinated and military took him to Gari Khuda Bux people asked Yaheya Buktiyar. You was so closed to Mr. Bhottu in his last days What did he said in these days ? :h
Yaheya Buktiyar said he said this is an obvious end of a brave leader of coward nation.

Javid Choudhary concluded May be he was right and now this coward and scary nation has stop producing brave leader. Lets tribute and pray for this great leader and pray Almighty to bless us with brave leader ship. :flg
nabeel replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 05:21 PM PST 

this is called "takabur". Words without Action doesnt have any meaning for a leader.
jk replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 05:57 PM PST 

@ nabeel .. You always try to find a bone Trust me there is nothing as you think off.
nabeel replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 11:35 PM PST 

you look jiyala. lutto tey phutto or kaho jeye bhutto
Amjad replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 04:24 AM PST 

Z A Bhutto is not with us any more but his chrishmatic personality and ideas are still ruling in the minds of people of Pakistan, his party have won 4th time election and 4th time ruling Pakistan. I think this is the best tribute to this leader that even after 30 years of his death people could not forget this great leader.
MKS replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 08:24 PM PST 

Can some body find data that which party got how many votes in last elections?
They are only showing seat results on election commission site but some how due to some unknown reasons they ar enot printing the total votes each party won.
I want to see which party in reality represent the majaority people of Pakistan and which part came to the top as a result of election engineering.
Thanks in advance.
nabeel replied on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 05:25 AM PST 

4th and last. Last Nail In the ppp Coffin is the unpopular zardari and his latest deal with musharaf. They all will be vanish after december.
Amjad replied on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 05:52 AM PST 

Nabeel,You have only one vote and if u cast your vote 1000 times against PPP even then PPP will win the election because poor people of Pakistan are with them. Please wait 4 years more.Now the times is changed, your establishment has become very weak and it is not possible any more for your Lahori leader to win the election with the help of military estblishment. If u believe in democracy please wait 4 years more. Please dont boil ur blood. Wait, wait, wait.
nabeel replied on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 08:34 AM PST 

Amjad pervez butt jee i can't stop you from day dreaming.
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Masjid: 10-Kanals  |  Parks: 36-Kanals  |  Hospital: 06-Kanals  |  School: 10.5-Kanals
Community Centre: 15-Kanals  |  Commercial Areas: 08-Kanals  |   Graveyard: 15-Kanals
Society/Security Offices: 04-Kanals  |  Office Blocks: 10-Kanals

 Exclusive Attractions

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Gated and Secure Community
Underground Utility Cables
Water Filtration Plant
Standby Power Generation
Solar Energy Streetlights
Vigilance Cameras on all roads
24/7 Security Centre & Vehicles
Battery Driven Cars For Internal Use
Exclusive Intercom/Telecom/TV Cable
Ambulance Service
Fire Brigade.
Single Controled Entrance
Library, Marriage Halls, Cinema, Shopping, etc.
Dedicated Carwash Bays


Main Defence Road & DHA Commercial Broadway
Just 500 Meters from NetSol Software
Technology Park  http://www.NetSolTek.com
(The largest IT organization in Pakistan)

METRO Cash & Carry Superstore at Entrance

Five Stars Serena Luxury Hotel at Entrance
(Planned on more than 45 Kanals)

Adjacent to Eden Avenue Extension
Opposite to main entrance of DHA Phase 8
1 Km from Ring Road.
1.5 Km DHA Phase 2
2 Km from Allama Iqbal International Airport
4 Km from Hyatt Regency & Pace Circle (Planned on 40 Kanals)
4 Km from Novotel Hotel & Shopping Mall

Contact LRE to Buy Best Locations

For more information, site visit and booking, please call:

Adil Saeed
Lahore Real Estate
Phone:   +92-322-4009766    |   +92-300-4009766 
98-Y Commercial, Phase 3, DHA Lahore.

786@gmail.com">LRE786@GMail.com 

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   ARG
Monday, September 14, 2009 01:45 PM PST 
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Office for Sale in Capital Shopping Center G-11 Markaz Islamabad.
Ad Type
City
Scheme
Demand(Rs)
For Sale
Islamabad
G-11
23 Lacs
Office for Sale in Capital Shopping Center G-11 Markaz Islamabad.
Size: 440 Sq.ft.
Floor: 3rd.
Facility: Funished plus furniture included.
Demand: 23 Lacs

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   Info
Monday, September 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST 
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Construction of Small House
Ad Type
City
Wanted
Rawalpindi
AOA,
Dear All,

I have initially small amount of about 10 to 11 Lakhs and I am looking a house in Rawalpindi. The consruction of house will save some money for me instead to purchase one.

I want to know the exact idea that how much cost it will take for completion of house with following specifications:

Plot size: 3.5 to 4.5 Marlas
Single Story
2 Bed Rooms + Baths
1 Car Porch
1 Kit
1 Drawing
1 TVL
Stairs
Covered Area 800 to 900 sqft.


The price break up will help me to plan for cost of plot. I have small amount and looking to build in quick time. I don't want to mortgage from Bank.

Someone who have recently build a small house, please contact regarding arrangement of finances. My location is Rawalpindi. Anybody who has experience of building houses can contact for negotiations.

Thank you
I am @

allah rekha replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:06 AM PST 

my suggestion is that buy a one kanal plot in DHAi phase2 ext at 10 lacs..leave it for two three years.after two three years sale this plot and then you can easilly manage the finance for your dear home.
with good wishes
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   PRT News
Monday, September 14, 2009 08:50 AM PST 
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   AGRICULTUR LAND
Monday, September 14, 2009 06:21 AM PST 
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Wakas sahib
The price is firm as the sugar mill has purchased 300 acres last year on same price where as the land they purchased is alot inferior to ours(half useful and half wasted).can confirm on situation,Offered land has the capasity to repay amount invested in 7 to 10 years.
regards usman
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   usman
Monday, September 14, 2009 05:58 AM PST 
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AGRICULTURE LAND
Dear wakas sahib
I have 50 acres land near Multan.Very fertile with lot of water from canal and two tube wells . Excellently yields cotton ,sugarcane(sugar mill located 10 km) wheat,all crops fodder etc.It is not a newly demarcated/ploughed land but in very profitable farming for the last 40 years.Has small mango(anwar ratore)orchid and lot of other trees.Very peacefull neighbours all retired army people(easily managing the same land setteled in Pindi.25 acres(200 canals)is also seperatly sellable.Five 5 lacks per acre not negotiable
Regards
usman Rawalpindi
dr mudasser replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 05:22 AM PST 

dear usman
please give the location of ur land
check ur email plz
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   Pardesi boy
Monday, September 14, 2009 04:22 AM PST 
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Future of DHA phase 6
Can anyone tell about future of Dha phase 6.
best regards
shahbaz
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   imran
Monday, September 14, 2009 01:41 AM PST 
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10 marla prime location plot for sale in Lahore sector C Bahria town
Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
For Sale
Lahore
Sector C
C
Gulmahar
549
10marla
Prime location 10marla plot:549, Gulmahar block in sector C Bahria town Lahore. All paid. pl. contact on mail.
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   imran
Monday, September 14, 2009 01:34 AM PST 
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Allocated premier awami villas Rawalpindi for sale
Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
For Sale
Rawalpind
Awamin villas
premier
One allocated Premier Awami villa is for sale in Rawalpindi. pl. contact me at mail.
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   bari
Sunday, September 13, 2009 09:31 PM PST 
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Zakkat Issue
I have own 2 plots and i am an overseas pakistani living outside of country and i have no home for myself.

my plane is to make a home.

2nd plot i will sale and with that money i will build the house on my ist plot.

so in this case i have to give zakkat on that. please guide.
ashraf replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:11 PM PST 

dont listean to a mullaha
irfan replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:52 PM PST 

From what I understand you will have to give zakat on 2nd plot which u intent to sell based on market value
Aamir replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 01:54 AM PST 

I have an Excel worksheet to calculate zakat on various heads such as gold,silver, agriculture product land/property,cash etc but there is no provision on this page to attach such worksheet. If you are interested, drop your e-mail ID and will reply back with attached worksheet.
Regards
AGAIN BARI replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:39 AM PST 

lets suppose if i sale out both plots on market price in future and buy a home for me. then in that case how u will guide me ?
limo replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:27 AM PST 

@bari
It solely depends on your neeah, if your intention at the time when you were buying these plots was the same that you have mentioned, then you dont have to pay zakat on either of them.
iqbal replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 05:17 AM PST 

dear aamir

olz send me that work sheet on following email
ashraf replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 06:47 AM PST 

DONOT LISTEAN TO A MULLAHAS JUST READ QURAN AND FIND YOURSELF.
Irfan Doha replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 07:20 AM PST 

for everyone's benefit, go to this website for Zakat spreadsheet calculation

www.zakat.110mb.com

http://zakat.110mb.com/zakatcalc.xls
mullah replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 08:18 AM PST 

ashraf seems to have some bitter experience with mullah, in the childhood perhaps.
fourvoyagers replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:18 PM PST 

Mullah Jee, I full agree with you, the "wound" seem to be quite deep rooted, but next time please be a bit "soft handed"!!!
whatever replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 03:30 PM PST 

Irfan

thanks for the worksheet.. I found it quite interesting :)

@TS

well, any property which has been placed useless and 1 yr has been passed then you have to pay zakat on that.. but let suppose you are renting that land frequently, then zakat don't apply.. similarly, if your land is used for crops then also zakat don't apply.. similarly let suppose you sell this land before zakat apply, and buy another land in same price then also zakat don't apply on it. I hope that clarify something...
limo replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 11:50 PM PST 

<any property which has been placed useless and 1 yr has been passed then you have to pay zakat on that>
Not at all!
Dear 'whatever" we should not speak on such issues unless we are damn sure about it.If both the plots have been bought with sole intention of constructing a home to live in, then you dont need to pay zakat on both of them, no matter how long they keep lying useless.
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   Dr Usman
Sunday, September 13, 2009 08:16 PM PST 
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Revision of Bahria Town Lahore Mohlanwal Projects Transfer Fees

New transfer fees will be announced soon by Bahria Town Lahore for Sector A, C, B, Overseas Enclave, Safari Villas, Executive Lodges and Canal View Residency.

New Fees Structure will like as under (approx):

5 Marla - Rs. 18,000

7 Marla - Rs. 25,000

8 Marla - Rs. 32,000

10 Marla - Rs. 68,000

1 Kanal - Rs. 114000

These new fees will be applicable from 1st October, 2009. Above mention fees are approx, for exact figure kindly contact Bahria Town directly.
A. Khan replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 09:06 PM PST 

Malik Riaz does not want to leave any stone un-turned where he can extort money in anyway he can.

Dr Usman Sb. does this fee include DC, CVT etc, or this is just pure BT charges?
Dr Usman replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 12:15 AM PST 

A. Khan sahab I have no idea. I saw this news on another website but I was not able to confirm it from Bahria. I request Hussain Kaisrani Sahab to share his views in this regard.
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 05:06 PM PST 

Dr Usman,
Salaam and Thanks brother for providing this useful information here. Its to confirm that the information is correct and verified by Bahria officials. Thanks.
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   FM
Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:32 AM PST 
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Dear All,

I am an overseas Pakistani and want to find out answer to a property related question.

My auntie (Khala) died few months ago. She did not merry and has left a house. My mother died prior to death of my khala. I have one Mamu and one Khala who are alive.

My question is, would I get inheritance from the house left by my late Khala.

Kind Regards
Well Wisher replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 02:40 PM PST 

Dear FM
I am afraid you will not get any thing. Since your mother was not alive at the time of death of of your Khala,she or her offsprings can not inherit any thing.Only your Khala's siblings living at the time of her death are entitled according to Pakistani/Islamic law of inheritance
Ejaz replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 03:21 PM PST 

Well Wisher is correct from ISLAMIC RULES point of view. But as per Pakistani rules, he is entitled to have his mother's share even his mother died before the death of his Khala. You may check with some WAKEEL SAHIB.
Ali Khan replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 04:23 PM PST 

Dear Well wisher and Ejaz Sahib,

I will be grateful if you may kindly throw some light on the following.

Is there any ratio for ones' brothers,sisters and parents while the deceased has his own children and wife?

What is the role of a WILL and who makes it in Pakistan?
limo replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 06:20 PM PST 

@ FM

Just check the following link, a software that helps you in such issues.

http://www.islamicsoftware.org/irth/irth.html
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   Kashif
Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:38 PM PST 
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REQUIRED PLOTS IN D-12 , E-12 or G-13\
Dear, I am interested to purchase 40x80 plot is Islamabad, preferably in Sectors D-12, E-12 or G-13. Can anyone has information regarding current prices, future forecast and contact details of someone selling plots in these sectors.
A.M.BUTT (Doha Qatar) replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 03:03 AM PST 

Brother Kashif,and all friends,

Please write the answer if any one have idea of:

What is the future of D-12 and what is actual location.?
atiq raja. replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 PM PST 

recmeded for future.
jawbreaker replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 12:47 AM PST 

hahahaha atiq is hell bent trying others to go for this sector .damn im sure he has a lot on stake .

well noone is so foolish here .
atiq raja. replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 01:40 AM PST 

i have no plots in these sectors,but advice to invest d/12 not in e/12 and g/13 even in i sectors,any how d/12 is the last sector where cda is sure to give possession in near future,1/16 or 14 are not part of islamabad,better to invest in g/15,very simple before investment not believe any body go to on spot than you will find answer of your questions.
jawbreaker replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 02:00 AM PST 

i have checked it myself .i will advice people to visit this d/12 sector and visit I/16 and compare which sector has development almost complete ,they are part of islambad and u cannot do anything about it .yea go on spot and check .why would i want to waste my money on d/12 or g sector when i can very well get the same size of plot in better rates .people should not trust this liar and visit these two sectors and then compare .I/16 development is 100% complete where as d/12 is no where near it .
Abdul replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 02:30 AM PST 

atiq raja is absolutely correct and comparing I-16, 15 and G-13,15 with D-12 is as betting on donkey over horse. D-12 is probably last chance for mediocre to buy a plot in CDA sector Islamabad otherwise in future it will be a dream.
ARG replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 04:09 AM PST 

better to buy plots in G-14/1,2,3.....rates are too low thesedays and it's good for 3-5 yrs investment. D-12 is long long way to go...same as E-12..
A.M.BUTT replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 07:32 AM PST 

Dear AtiRaja

Thank you for your advice.actually one of my friend from Islamabad view was correctly as you mention.Now it is easy for me to decide.
nabeel replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 08:23 AM PST 

i will advise atiq raja please do not break heart of people investing in i and g sectors. investment depends on ones budget and d-12 and e-11 are expensive. if you talk like this outside, you will be beaten up soon. this is not london.
jawbreaker replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 11:09 AM PST 

nabeel yr remarks
hahahhah i cannot stop laughing .
london lol london may pakistani petrol pump per ya store main kam kertay hain
G-13 replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 12:49 PM PST 

G-13 Recommended..
Reasons: Possession on ground, development done by reputed FWO.. Excellent location on Main Kashmir Highway which is going to be further widened this year.. Hundreds of families already living in the sector. I'll recommend to go through G-13's map and compare its planning with other CDA sectors. One will come to know its best organized and plannned CDA sector among its competitors.
nabeel replied on Monday, September 14, 2009 02:03 PM PST 

he got some kind of a rich fobia but he is well informed but he always compare apple with orange without thinking that there is no comparison.

atiq raja. replied on Friday, May 29, 2009 04:18 PM PST

i think you people dont understand,know islamabad is changed after coming dha and bt,these days these organizations stabalishing and get foting, still need around 10 years for proper stablishment ,Actual islamabad is f sectors mean F6 to F11,if you exclude F sectors than islamabad is zearo.G sectors,visit g/7 sector markiz sittara market,g/8 markiz, g/9 markiz mean karachi company,g/10 and g/11 markiz,people cannot move in these areas with famalies,how you people say that areas are friendly enviromental areas,please keep eyes open and look future,if you keep eye open and feel things,than every think will clear,keep in mind f sereies people not going karachi company or peshawar more,i am living in f6/3 sience 1973,from my whole student life i did not see karachi comapy or peshawar more.if you visit dha by clean hart you will get answar of your questions,if by chance you people stuck in poor places please helps others.
atiq raja. replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:23 AM PST 

nabeel i am very much clear about my opinion because i know a to z about islamabad ,you know 6 to 7 year back the e/11 one kanal plot is around 20 lack rupees and e/12 plot was 40 lack rupees,please look my advice care fully,about cda sectors,dha include commoner town,agochs11 bahria town zone5 and 1 societies etc,my question is can you take your family to karachi company for shoping or eating or chill out to peshawar moor,simple it is best time to these areas people to shift your residence to dha phase 11 or BT 1to 6 or 5 year planning to shift d/12.
jawbreaker replied on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 04:18 AM PST 

nabeel
I fully agree with u here .He sure has got some kind of complex .

mr ATIQ i think u didnt get the hang of it .u cannot compare orange with apple as nabeel said.damn are u some kind of a daft that u cannot comprehend one simple thing that every place has its own value .it all depends on some one pocket or budget .now there are many people who wouldnt want to invest in yr dha or bt .will u stop ramming yr ideas down our throat .
nadeem replied on Friday, September 18, 2009 07:55 PM PST 

i have one 40X80 plot for sale in G-15/1 .contact me if u r intrested at or Mob#
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