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Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:43 PM PST 
Future of Bahria Enclave

Dear group members,

I hope everyone is enjoying their lives.

I have not seen a lot of active discussions on this forum about the Bahria Enclave Project of BT in Islamabad.

I remember when this project was launched in July 2012, everyone was opposing it here and always negative remarks.

Now when the Bahria Enclave has given possession in record time of about one year for its Phase-1 plot owners, still people are not talking (appreciating) about the same. Where as the project of CDA (Park Enclave) is still on papers.

Now the market of Bahria Enclave is still very high despite the scandals of MR.

I hope expert of this group will express views about this project.

Thanks

Enclave replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:30 PM PST 

Its still a remote place in the middle of wilderness. Posession will not make a difference coz i dont think anybody would be able to construct and live there as there are no schools, markets, police stations, etc in 20 km radius.

It might become a good place after 10 yrs.

Paki Abroad replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:51 PM PST 

@Ihsan,
unfortunately in Pakistan you cant be certain about anything, for real estate be it CDA,Bahria, DHA or any society there is a lot of uncertainity. Look at CDA which is considered most safe and what have they done with plot owners in sectors like D12 and E 12 etc?

So, in my view if you have budget than buy a plot or house in already developed area, if not you have to take risk. PAKISTAN IS RISKY. Orelse try to settle abroad if you can.....

The answer to your question is Bahria enclave has done very good so far, and looking at the development work so far you will see plot owners in Phase 1 will start construction immediately once they get possession which is scheduled to be given on 6th sep.

Rest only ALLAH knows best.

DollarMan replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 08:52 PM PST 

yes i have heard about bahria enclave... it is ready for construction and some people are also started construction! this is really amazing!

ZNS replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:52 PM PST 

I am going to Pakistan in Nov and try taking possession of my 10 marla in Enclave, last time when I was there the development pace was good and glad to see they are delivering. Looking forward to start construction once I have the possession.

Islamabadian replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:19 AM PST 

Despite of alllll the negativities attached with BE like no NOC and all shit attached with Malik Riaz, the best thing i see about bahria enclave is that it has given middle class a chance to have thier own home in islamabad which was just a dream before. If you look at people who have purchased these plots, most of these are people who have lived in islamabad on rented houses for decades and finally they can have thier own home.

Kal ho na ho replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 02:26 PM PST 

All BE plot owners be happy you did not invest in CDA. Read this article. My sympathies for people who have invested in Park Enclave.

http://dawn.com/2012/09/05/cda-fails-to-develop-park-enclave/

Dhaisb replied on Thursday, September 6, 2012 05:01 AM PST 

@Islamabadian are u OK?? what do u mean when u say BE has given chance for middle class to build home in islamabad?? 10 marla plot costs almost 35+ lac now add the standerd construction cost this would be 1 Crore for just a 10 marla house!! how can middle class in pakistan who are living on rests invest 1 Crore for a 10 marla house~!!! u crazy!!!
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(54334)
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:28 AM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 8 Plots For Sale

:pkf
DHA Phase 8 Near S 910 @ 59 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near S 1027 @ 68 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near S 510 @ 71 Lac 1 Kanal 70 Feet Road

DHA Phase 8 Near S 979 @ 59 Lac 1 Kanal Corner

DHA Phase 8 Near T 297 @ 66 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near T 569 @ 65 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near T 1181 @ 85 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near U 245 @ 80 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near U 111 @ 85 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near U 16 @ 80 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near V 1225 @ 64 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near V 582+583 @ 170 Lac 1 Kanal Pair

DHA Phase 8 Near X 1111 @ Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near X 127 @ 70 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near X 957 @ 64 Lac 1 Kanal

DHA Phase 8 Near Y 132 @ 41 Lac 10 Marla

DHA Phase 8 Near Y 164 @ 39 Lac 10 Marla

DHA Phase 8 Near Y 477 @ 21.50 Lac 5 Marla

LAHORE REAL ESTATE
UAN:111 111 040
Cell:03224333661




:forsale: :forsale: :forsale:

Ch Saeed Rafique replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:36 AM PST 

DHA Phase 8 Near S 979 @ 65 Lac 1 Kanal Corner
DHA Phase 8 Near X 1111 @ 76 Lac 1 Kanal
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(54332)
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:00 AM PST 
Parking rules in DHA

I understand that DHA along with other reputed societies does not allow to park the cars over night in the streets or in front of Banglows. I would just like to ask the experiene of people living near commercials, There is ample parking infront of commercial Plazas and also separate dedicated parking, does DHA mind if nearby residents park in these areas for overnight period, Day time I already know that no one minds.
The question I am asking as someone known to me is getting one portion on rent in DHA 2 , just very near commercial, they have 2 cars and the owner already have 3 cars [they dont have space in home], The Commercial area is neat and clean and does not look busy even on the day. Agent is telling that there is no problem if you park on commercial area Parkings.
Is it acceptable over night??

ZK replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 03:30 AM PST 

alot of cars are stolen from dha 1 , so i dont think its a better option. park outside house or hire a guard or take permision from dha officials , baray baray shehron mein aise choti choti batein hoti rehte hein :)
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(54331)
Monday, September 3, 2012 11:49 PM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 7

Assalam-o-alaikum,
Does any one has any update on the progress of development of phase 7 (old ballotted plots). When is expected to be completed for sector x,y and z. when is the proposed time for handing over the possession?
Any kind feedback will be highly appreciated.
FAH

DHA Lahore Phase 7 replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:32 PM PST 

In may last visit one month back I saw lot of development in X and Y area, The delay is only due to small Pockets,
In Q,R, S, T, U , blocks DHA can declare possession even now, But i think they want to Clear as much area as possible before possession is Given, It is Good For investors and future home builders as DHA 6 Is in Full Construction phase, and you can see the rates has increased about 20 lac in 2 years, as DHA 7 is connected directly to DHA 6 so it will be also populated soon. same will be true for price gain

Jameel

FAH replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:22 PM PST 

Thanks Jameel Sahib for your feedback.

Best regards.

DHA7Viewer replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 08:01 PM PST 

Mr. Jameel is correct but I've read few weeks/months ago on LRE website by LRE staff that possession for DHA 7 won't be given before 2014 so more than 2 years are expected although work is being done at the moment.

And the work will be completed on upper part of X & Y area first and then lower part will be done may be 3 more years in total.

Do you guys think, after three years even if average located plots in these blocks will have 50% increase in price though Rupees will be de-valued at more than 30% at that stage of posession so you will get only 20% or lower profit after 3 years of this 40 Lac plus investment in Phase 7?

Please comment.

Thanks.

Lahore Real Est replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 02:49 PM PST 

@ DHA7Viewer,
The development work of Newly Balloted plot is will be started soon along old balloted plots. AS Mr.Jameel is right in saying that Q, R, S, T and U blocks is almost ready for possession but somewhere in 2013 and new extension possession by the end of 2014.

Lahore Real Estate
Salman@LREPK.Com
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(54330)
Monday, September 3, 2012 10:47 PM PST 

AOA Mr Lahore Real Est we have a plot in X-Air Avenue which is now I think DHA 8. We plan to build a home can you kindly check with your connections when they will open the construction / maps for new homes.

Your help and advise would be appreciated. I would have written to CMy since he is in USA.

Look forward for our feedback.

Take care - Faisal

Lahore Real Est replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:05 AM PST 

Dear Mr.Faisal,
WA, The DHA is not giving possession to air avenue plot holder for house construction. I m not the right person.Kindly
Contact DHA directly regarding this issue.We don't have any latest update about this issue.

Salman@LREPK.Com

Lahore Real Estate

Faisal replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 09:45 PM PST 

Dear Mr.Salman,

You are in the market and have good connections with DHA as suppose to us I would appreciate some kind of feedback.

Lahore Real Est replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 02:39 PM PST 

Dear Mr. Faisal,
I wish, I could help you in this matter but We will be
update air avenue developments as soon as we get any news from any reliable sources.
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(54328)
Monday, September 3, 2012 05:55 PM PST 
Commercial Plot for Sale Size 133.33 sq.yds (40'x30)

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Road
Demand(Rs)
For Sale
Islamabad
JKCHS
G-15
Markaz
23
5 Marla's
Comm
165 Lacs
For Sale:

Commercial plot. Attached to plaza. One can immediate start business after completing its construction or rent it out. The most active side of the Markaz, where business is on boom. Please see the location first in order to ascertain our claim. Thanks

ZK replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 03:36 AM PST 

no wonder HM superstore is the most busiest place in g-15 markaz :)
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(54327)
Monday, September 3, 2012 04:43 PM PST 
Unique Residence in Gulberg for Sale

Ad Type
City
For Sale
Lahore
PRIME & PRIVATE LOCATION IN GULBERG III.

4 Kanal Edwardian Style Villa set in mature landscaped lawn. 7 Bedrooms, built by owner with best materials. Separate guest annexe and swimming pool. Represents real value for money.

hasan replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 06:43 PM PST 

kindly sms or mail me the Demand of this Villa , or mention your
contact details so will contact you , intrested in this property
thanks
Hasan

Hamid London replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 07:03 PM PST 

Hello Could you please e-mail me the details/ pictures of this villa and your demand? My e-mail is
Tel:

Thanks.

usman replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:29 AM PST 

22 crores
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(54326)
Monday, September 3, 2012 04:17 PM PST 
Gulberg Islamabad

Dear All

There is news that Telenor Pakistan has purchase acers of land in Gulbarg Islamabd

Omer replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 05:43 PM PST 

Yes it's confirm n true

Sceptic replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 06:42 PM PST 

Why would Telenor, a telecommunications firm buy acres of land in a developing society?

Paki replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 07:25 PM PST 

They have to build huge office to merge all their offices and its also confirm news that around 200 Telenor employees already book plots near their future office.

ZK replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 03:14 AM PST 

telenor was recently having signals prob , ab paki paki band honay wali hai :\

Paki replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:29 PM PST 

Mr ZK Telenor is not a rubbish Pakistani or Arab company they belong to west they always know what they are doing and where they want to go not like Arab (Warid) AFRICAN (Mobilink - Egypt).
If Telenor decide to stay in Pakistan then you will observe in recent future they will come again to top.
Wasay baqi companies kay signals kay bare main kia khyal hay :):)

Panicked replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:52 PM PST 

@ Paki - Mobilink is not african nor egyptian anymore. It has been bought by a Russian consortium whose biggest shareholder is telenor

Salman replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 02:15 PM PST 

@paki
Bhai Mobilink;s owner is Vimple com and Vimple com is same company who has telenor:)

Paki replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:23 PM PST 

Vimple is own by Telenor not Telenor is own by Vimple :)
It means Telenor has more powers now thanks God we get rid of f**ing
Africans (I mean Egyptions coward and useless nation).

ZK replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 07:58 PM PST 

khair i like telenor djuice :D and hate zong :\
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(54325)
Monday, September 3, 2012 04:12 PM PST 
NFC Phase 2 One Kanal Plot for sale

Ad Type
Demand(Rs)
For Sale
1900000
1 kanal plot near 273A in NFC Phase 2, facing park,very close to the Multan road entrance and canal, all dues clear. Good opportunity for medium term investment, price is likely to go much higher in a few months as development works are in full flow. :sh:

Shafiq replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 04:17 PM PST 

Dear Adnan,

Why dont you wait few months, at the moment no one shall give you the asking price.

Regards.

tariq replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 05:08 PM PST 

my offer is 13 lac

Adnan replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:18 AM PST 

Ok gentlemen, lets talk again in December shall we.. I dont suppose at this stage, there would be anyone selling their NFC plots anyway.

Faizan replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 03:04 PM PST 

Mr Adnan even in December your plot will not be sold in 1900000. Mr Tariq#s offer is quite reason able for ur plot.

Habib replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 03:52 PM PST 

Adnan,
For case of NFC2 a Bit of Patience is needed. If Ongoing speed of development is not Interuppted. You may be able to sell same Plot in 24,25 in 18 months Time, Unless You very badly need dont sell it Now

Saqib malik replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 05:31 PM PST 

13.5 lakh.

Cash if you are in need of money. But at the same time i would suggest you not to sell at this time. Just hold for 6 months or so. You will have better price.

khawar replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:08 PM PST 

Dear Adnan

14 lakh.

sha replied on Monday, October 15, 2012 04:29 PM PST 

if i m not wrong all dues are paid n development charges left? i m rite or wrong?that ll become 20lacs after paying development charge???????????? need to know kindly reply
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(54324)
Monday, September 3, 2012 03:52 PM PST 
ebay Order through GPO (General Post Office)

Assalam-o-Alaiqum,

This is not property related but some of the reader might guide me and would appreciated Admin of LRE for allow me for this.

Is that ok to order some product from ebay to deliver to Pakistan?
Would Pakistan Post Office deliver the products safely to any address in Lahore (Punjab)?

Please share your experience as I had bad experience with Pakistan Post Office that I sent brand new mobile phone through registered post from EU to Lahore which never reached even though I give all details to my brother to persue in GPO which didn't accept they have received it or acknowledge the tracking number I gave GPO. On another occassion I sent another mobile phone which reached through GPO.
So, not sure if it would be good to order on Ebay to deliver Lahore/Pakistan?

Please advise/comment on this or best way to place online order for family/friends who lives in Pakistan.

Best regards.

J replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 06:46 PM PST 

use http://www.shopandship.com/default.aspx

this will give you an address in US. You can ask ebay to ship product to ur US address and then Aramex (courier company) will ship it to your Pakistan address.

Pakistan postoffice reliability or issues cant help you with international shipment tracking. I had similar issues with no registered shipments from Amazon.com to UAE address.

Naveed Yaseen replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:59 AM PST 

Government postal service in Pakistan is not reliable, especially for expensive or small pocket size items.

Shipping from ebay would be relatively more risky than your own shipping experience, as in your case at least one end was safe.

Pappu Shah replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 06:05 AM PST 

With due respect, Pakistan is not what it used to be some 20 years back & has literally become a shopper's paradise. Just name anything & you will find people providing excellent door to door service to deliver quality goods of your choice without the hassle of using any credit card. You just confirm order of your required goods & the delivery is made on the next day. Just give it a try with some small item.
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(54323)
Monday, September 3, 2012 03:07 PM PST 

ASA
Could you please let me know about the procedure of property tax calculation? The old wesite of Punjab Government had all the details, but the new one is blank. There is no information about property tax. If you know something about the issue, please do share with the people on this site.

Uzma Butt Dubai replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 08:18 PM PST 

Mr. Amjad, People are not interested to answer the question because they do not pay property tax, and they do not want to pay in future, too. So, find some other forum. Here they only discuss how to earn as much as possible and how to save as much as possible. They do not dicuss or have time to discuss how to pay and how much to pay for the country. Sorry! If my words hurt someone!

Jameel replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 01:21 AM PST 

I have some vague idea.
Property Tax is due like Token tax and if You dont pay it continues accumulating with fines and one have to clear.
Lahore is divided in A B C D areas, depending upon area and covered area an assessment is done by revenue officer and and Tax is payable, Assessment is done periodically 3 to 6 years. Voucher is issued by regional Revenue office.These are delivered door to door but there had been regulations and people Complain they did not get in time.
For example I pay for my old house 10 Merla Double story in B area, 2500 Rs annually, In 2012 is due date was 15 Sept and as paid early there was 12% deduction so I paid less.
It is accepted only in National Bank Like a utility bill.
Rented Houses if declared have more Tax [How much I dont Know]
Commercial areas have even More Tax. Last Year there was an Incident where some shops at Lakshmi Chowk Piled up property tax up to 9 Lac[I dont know how many years they did not pay] Authorities Sealed the Shops and the owners were protesting on the road. I dont know finally what happened. As per rules Owner can be arrested if Property tax is not paid for Many years.

I hope you get a Sketch of this Tax

CRT replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 06:43 PM PST 

@ Uzma butt Dubai, thank you for condemning us- which is the default mode of many- but I have not come across any one in Europe who is keen to pay tax. It's the system which makes paying tax attractive and avoidance punishable. Our fault is simply not trying hard enough to change system.

Mian Sahib replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 08:42 PM PST 

Further to the information given y Mr. Jameel, property tax on rented out property is 1s% of the annual rental value. The rental value is also assessed by the taxation authority from time to time as he has mentioned. There arerebatesof 10% or 5% on the payable amounts if paid within certain periods.
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(54322)
Monday, September 3, 2012 02:58 PM PST 
DHA commercial

Please Tell DHA commercial Avenue Block Oleander 4 Marla commercial plots no 28 Boulevard Street -3 Block –D what is market value? and DHA Valley 8 Marla plot no 39 Daisy block

CRT replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 04:32 PM PST 

Yes, I want to know 4 marla commercial avenue price in the same block as well. Please let me know.

rocky replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 05:43 PM PST 

still no rise in price, however wait till april, 2013. afetr that there is chance of rise

CRT replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 06:19 PM PST 

Thanks rocky, you are always helpful.

dani replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 02:27 AM PST 

Ehtisham sb and CRT
i am interested in buying a commercial plot in lily/oleander blocks, what is the status of your plot and installments? what is your demand. please provide me your email/
contact number if you are interested in selling the plot.

CRT replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 06:39 PM PST 

@ Dani, I am outside Pak for next few months, so can not sell right now but would be looking to sell mid next year InshALLAH. Thanks for your offer.

rocky replied on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 07:33 PM PST 

I had seen the constructed houses at lily and oleander blocks via google earth,so if DHA management is concentrated, next year they will definitly in aposition to offer the houses. any body have confirmed news about the cancellation of rest blocks? if so the refund policy ?or
location of alternate plots?

jym replied on Thursday, September 6, 2012 02:31 AM PST 

Hi , look at the DHA Valley site, they launched a documentary on their site regarding the development works, this movie was actually running at different channels now they gave a lolly pop to the investors, any idea about the date of possession?????????????????
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(54320)
Monday, September 3, 2012 01:04 PM PST 
BT RWP & DHAI Phase II Opinion !

Bahria Town RWP or DHAI II
Dear All,

I have budget of Rs 35-45Lac and want to buy 1 Kanal plot near to ISB highway to construct home. Construction will take place after 2-3 years inshallah.

Because of boundry Security and Facilities, i have selected BHT (phase 3-6) and DHAI phase 2.
Can you please advice which option is better in terms of price appretiation, location and reliability ?

Due you think the market is down in BT for any purchases ?

ZNS replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 08:17 AM PST 

Bahria. BT
prices gone up so I doubt you will get the deal. You will be only able to get 10 Marla in this price. If you could live in phase-8, you could get possession ready 1 kanal at that price. A really good location 1 kanal plot is being sold in overseas enclave, asking is 42 laca. Might get it for 39-40.

I am also looking for one in overseas but my budget is quite low.

DollarMan replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 08:57 PM PST 

Go for bahria 1-4 ! it's fully populated with all the facilities... while DHA2 will take 10 years to be fully populated ... it has only 5% people living there now and that too with no supermarkets and shops etc.
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(54319)
Monday, September 3, 2012 09:29 AM PST 
LDA Avenue 1 Lahore

Air Avenue 10 merla plot is 40 to 45 and , LDA avenue 1 is 11 to 16 Lac ,But LDA avenue 1 still is unable to give possession, There are still many areas in litigation, It is Good investment but no peace of mind,
reasons
Litigation
LDA societies are notorious for poor Management and Qabza Mafia
Not good development
and Not good Facilities
too much slow progress,
when this site was Launched 7 years back many innocent holder were very Optimistic and most of them wanted to complete house by 2007, But time proved that LDA avenue was worse than Johar Town which already had under performed .
However finally LDA will emerge as a good Town but all the areas will not be good. There will be much uninterrupted land and encroachments. some area will be good but cant tell at this stage
And worst thing is no reliable time line can be given.

Jameeel
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(54318)
Monday, September 3, 2012 01:03 AM PST 
Eden Gardens Lahore

you all are waisting your time. i need ten people to take eden gardens to supreme court and ask for compensation of our invested amount. i got this advice by one of the solicitor who is a good friend of mine.if any others nine are interested then contact on my email adress below.the total expenditure is only ten thousand each i think its nothing.atleast someone should take start against them.

Nadeem replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 05:10 PM PST 

Where is your Mail ID ??????
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(54317)
Monday, September 3, 2012 12:58 AM PST 
LDA Avenue 1 Lahore

A.O.A
I am new to this forum and i found this very much helpful.As i am planning to come back to pakistan by the end of this year and i want to do some investment for the purpose of house construction.Last year i have visited many societies and found some of them good and make a decision to bye a plot in lda avenue 1.I want to know about the latest condition of this society and price range of 1 kanal and 10 marla plots in good blocks (clear block-- litigation free)
plz advise me and guide me if there is some other good option within this range.


thanks
Akhtar Hussain

Muhammad Shah replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 01:38 AM PST 

why don't you go for the former-Air Avenue (DHA 8), the most beautiful society in Lahore.

Iftikhar Ahmad replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 09:17 PM PST 

What is actual problem with LDA Avenue-I?.

I like this society due to its
location and this society contains only
1o Marla and 2o Marla plots. This feature is very attractive to me.

Understand being government owned there are problems but once possession of plots are given it will be best one in Lahore.

Salman replied on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 02:24 PM PST 

No doubt LDA avenue-1 is best society for investment point of view.As LDA sociey has maximum rate of return because residential plots would become commercial property very easily unlike Private societies.GO for it !!
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(54316)
Monday, September 3, 2012 12:57 AM PST 
CUR RATE

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Size
Cur. Rate
Lahore
DHA
6
1K
Dear CMY

KIndly evaluate the current price of the fOllowing plots in DHA-6

D 91 Phase 6, 1 kanal
F 221 Phase 6, 1 kanal

Thank You very much

Lahore Real Est replied on Monday, September 3, 2012 07:01 PM PST 

D 91 can be sold around 78 to 80 Lacs ( Facing Hospital )
F 221 can be sold around 78 to 80 Lacs

Salman@LREPK.Com
03004009967
Lahore Real Estate
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