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(50555)
Monday, November 28, 2011 05:36 PM PST 
Need guidance...

Can a Plot be purchase from Mukhtar Khas
Asslam O Alikum,

Mein ne aik plot purchase kiya hai. Jiss bande se mein plot lia ha uss ke pass mujhemukhtar-e-khas hai jo patware khane se confirm kia hai.Uss mukhtar e khas ke mutabik jiss ki taraf se ye mukhtar e khas banaya gaya hai uss ke pass pehley mukhtar e aam hai jo ke uss ke bhai ki taraf se hoa tha jiss ke naam pe registery hai. Wo registery mukhtar e khas or mukhtar e aam sab mujhe final payment pe mill gaye hain.

Mein ne waseeka nawees ke through Registery permission li or ab final payment ke baad ab registery verfication ke lieye bhej di hai jiss ke baad inteqal ho ga...

Kiya ye process sahi hai..

Mujhe is web site pe kisi ne batay hai ke ye deal safe nai hai ... kiyon ke asal malik jiss ke naam registery thi wo case ker sakta hai..

Kia ye sahi hai...

Or mujhe app appni safty ke lieeye kia kerna chahiey...


Wslaaam

JJ replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 05:42 PM PST 

Lahori Bhai, Better to speak with a Lawyer now for professional advice. Hope you will understand.

... replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 05:44 PM PST 

Allah Mian say dua. Otherwise, originally owner of the plot can creat problem anytime for u.

Lahori replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 05:52 PM PST 

Agar inteqal ho jata hai.. jo ke 1-2 months meind due hai.. kia uss ke baad bhi asal malik ka kuch haq reh jata hai ?

Info replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 06:39 PM PST 

Agar property malik ka Intiqal pur malal registry karwane se phaly ho jai tu Mukhatr-e-Khas qanooni tur per cancel ho jata hey.

Lahori replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 07:00 PM PST 

This is realle serious for me..

Please guide me....

I need help....

.... replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 07:22 PM PST 

Just speed up the process of registry and intiqal. there is no other solution. untill this process is completed, you are in danger zone. never ever buy any property until u know the original owner and he is involve in selling, i mean he is witness in this deal or identifier.

Thats why I said above, Allah Mian is dua karo, everything should go smooth.

Good luck.
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(50553)
Monday, November 28, 2011 05:13 PM PST 
Are new registeries are being done in lahore cantt.

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AOA all,

Are new registries are being done in Lahore cantt or not. I have heard that CM has halted the new registries for indefinite time period.. is it true or not ?

Regards

Info replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 06:48 PM PST 

No. Registries of free hold land are being done in Cantt. area.
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(50552)
Monday, November 28, 2011 04:24 PM PST 

Dear experts,

I am planning to purchase 5 marla residential plot in Bahria Town Lahore for investment purposes. I do not intend to construct a house on this plot.
Can somebody please guide me whether BT management imposes any charges for not constructing house on a ready plot? Is it worth investing in this area. My planned investment is for a period of around 5 years.

Your comments shall be appreciated.

AG replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:24 PM PST 

BT Non Construction chages start after 3 years from the of possession of the plot.
Regards.

AH Bhatti replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 05:08 PM PST 

Dear AG, your advice is always wise and usefull to the members but in BT there are security charges of the plot even before you apply possesion. I'm, currently, paying 500/month for a ten marla plot and I have to continue paying till I apply possesion. Three years after possesion, no charges but after that 2500/month even I do not build house! If you have any different information please do share!
Regards,

AG replied on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 02:58 AM PST 

AH Bhatti Sb.

Let us be realistic & face the truth. Given the presence of Qabza Groups & other factors prevailing in our society I think it is a blessing to pay Bahria @ PRs.500/- per month to safeguard your plot worth tens of millions of Pak. Rs.
I have my house, two residential plots & a 5 marla commercial plot in BT Lahore. I live in UAE & can afford to live in peace by just paying small amount for their security.
I admit that I am not capable of getting my plot/house back if occupied by a Qabza Group & believe most of the members of this forum are like me.
I appologise for being a bit bold.
Regards.

Regards.

AH Bhatti replied on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 02:04 PM PST 

AG Sb, If ones plot is not in a well know society, yes, you are right, one must pay this money but we are talking about BT... Is it possible even there... can someone capture your plot with out having any record with the society........... Society has no credibility!
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(50549)
Monday, November 28, 2011 03:26 PM PST 

AoA brothers,

This is not an Islamic site but I'm sure many friends here would have come across this scenario. I have questions regarding Zakat:

1. I am paying installments for DHA Homes Islamabad 8-marla homes: is any zakat applicable on the money that I am depositing with DHA Islamabad?
2. I have a one kanal file of Phase 9 DHA Lahore, Is any zakat applicable on this?
3. I am sure any on-ground plot I possess will be eligible for zakat, but please confirm this

I will be grateful if my friends could give me a good detailed advice.

rgds

Irfan replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 04:55 PM PST 

Walikum Aslam brother,

While I am not expert but during Ramadan time I do some research and here is my high level understanding.

It depends upon your intention, if these plots are for investment purpose and you would like to resell than yes zakat is payable and my understanding is on market value at the time of calculation of Zakat

The DHA homes, my understanding is you will pay Zakat on the total value of home, minus your outstanding loan,

So during Zakat calculation you will minus your liabilities.

Also I request other knowledgeable brothers to correct if I am wrong and encourge you to also do direct research on proper Islamic websites.

Jazak Allah Khair. Regards, Irfan

Mr. Khan, Saudi Arabia replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 07:36 PM PST 

If intention is to give the plot or house to your children, will Zakat still be payable?

Info replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:09 PM PST 

Only the current value of property is attributed towards Zakat. Intentions might get changed over a period of time.

Zakat replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:16 PM PST 

Thanks Irfan,

What about the file I possess?

Irfan replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:58 PM PST 

Zakat is not payable on personal residential house even if you have more than one and meant for residentail purpose only, Also Zakat is not applicable on the value of property given on rent irrespective of how many.
However Zakat is payable on rental income itself after deducting teh maintenance and other expenses.
However if your intention of holding property is to sell at future date for a profit or as an investment, then Zakat is payable on the market value of property. Also, if your intention of holding properties changes in the current year, i.e. from self use to business then you need to pay Zakat on that property value.

The above is from a zakat calcuation that I use, link is

please email the developer of zakat calculator on ajameel at gmail.com

Irfan replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 09:00 PM PST 

and by the way, if in doubt on same matter my suggustion is to better pay Zakat, you have nothing to lose, Allah will protect your investment and give you benefit from unknown sources, can confirm my own experience :)

kashif Ali replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 10:55 PM PST 

Irfan Sb.

Is it compulsory to pay ZAKAT in RAMADAN, or we can pay any time.

I want pay some amount to couple of needy families on monthly basis, can i consider this amount in ZAKAT?

Please clear this.

many thanks.

Irfan replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 11:17 PM PST 

Can be paid anytime, do get zakat calculator so you know what you need to may minium.

I did some research online and found to following as to who can be paid

In Holy Qur’an, Allah said: "As-sadaqaat (here means zakat) are only for the fuqara (poor), and al-masaakin (the needy) and those employed to collect (the funds) and to attract the hearts of those who have been inclined (toward Islam), and (to free) captives, and for those in debt, and for Allah's cause (i.e. for those fighting in a holy battle) and for the wayfarer (a traveler who is cut off from everything); a duty imposed by Allah. " (Taubah; 9/60)

It is possible to explain the eight categories of people mentioned in the verse as:

The poor (Faqir/Fuqara): Those without sufficient means of livelihood to meet their basic necessities. For instance, those who, although may have a job, a house and a car, but whose income is below the minimum requirement (nisab).

The needy (Miskeen): Those without any means of livelihood and material possessions and dependent on others to meet their most basic needs such as food and shelter.

Employees of the zakat, even if they are rich, they are allowed to take from the zakat money limited to an amount to take care of themselves and their family.

Sympathizers are people whose hearts are expected to inclined to Islam or whose believe to Islam is expected to increase can be given gifts from the Zakat money.

Slaves and captives: In the days that the system of slavery existed, this meant that a person who wants to free himself from the shackles of slavery should be given Zakat so that he may release his neck from bondage by giving money to his master.

Debtor is person who is in debt and does not have financial capital or property exceeding the nisab amount. Such persons should hold priority status when giving Zakat money compared to the poor without any debts.

Those who work for Allah’s cause, either to spread the truth or to defend their country for Allah’s sake but also in need for meeting their basic needs deserve zakat.

Travelers are people who travels to another country or a foreign place for noble purposes such as pilgrimage or study and have difficulty in meeting their needs. They might have living means, but they can still receive zakat if they have trouble in accessing their means during travelling.

source http://www.ihh.org.tr/zekat-fitre/en

kashif Ali replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:51 AM PST 

Thank you very much Irfan sb.
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(50548)
Monday, November 28, 2011 01:49 PM PST 
BEACONHOUSE DHA Phase Phase VI

1.The project is a lease agreement with M/s Education Services Limited. (BEACONHOUSE)

2.This will accommodate the residents and conform to the highest standards of education in DHA Lahore with all the modern & latest facilities for education

3.Having its own amenities like play grounds, swimming pool, gym and auditorium

A. Plot Area - 60 Kanal
b. Location - J Sector, Phase VI
C. A purpose build modern campus
d. Work Started - Mar 2010
e. Model - Lease

Info replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:20 PM PST 

The future education hub is Buki road

Info replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 08:32 PM PST 

@Mod: Please amend read as Burki Road
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(50547)
Monday, November 28, 2011 01:15 PM PST 
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(50546)
Monday, November 28, 2011 11:19 AM PST 
Doors & Chokataa

Any idea if one makes the Chokataa and door frames with KAEL wood and on the door use Maghony Veerner (3 Suttar)

Regards,
Ahmad
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(50545)
Monday, November 28, 2011 09:20 AM PST 
Bahria Nasheman Possession

Aoa,

My question is about bahria nasheman,have anybody bought a plot
in bahria nasheman and get immediate possession ??? Because
i have paid 50% of plot price about 1 Monte ago but till today don´t receive any possession letter just allotment letter has issued.Bharia
management has told us that we have to wait further 2 weeks.

babar replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 06:24 PM PST 

nobody????

Bahria Nasheman replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 06:30 PM PST 

Babar did you visit Bahria Naheeman.
How far it is from Kalma chock in Kilometers.
Whats the status of project houses are underconstruction there

D.Khan replied on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 08:10 PM PST 

Possession will only be given when you applied for possession they itself will not grant possession. you did not mention whether you applied for possession or not.
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(50544)
Monday, November 28, 2011 03:27 AM PST 
DHA business

Can someone explain why DHA floats files one decade (10 years ) before the actual start of development work. I don’t see any solid reason apart from the fact that they earn profit on transfer fees. After this it takes another 5-7 years to complete the development work.

Moreover the file prices in DHA are always controlled by the “middle men”. They float the news of early balloting and sell the files on high prices.

My guess is that buying files / plots in DHA gives benefit only to these people who buy the property on Bianaa and sell it on a profit of 0.5 to 4 lacs of profit in few days. True buyers who transfer the property in their own name very rarely get profit. Transfer charges are very high and adding the dealer commission and other things cost to ( for example in phase 5 ext.) around 2.35 lacs. This amount will be recovered in how much time. And when will the true buyer get the profit

TARIQ replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 01:59 PM PST 

DHA phase 9,Is it worth to buy a file in phase9. what is the rate of the file.Is it a worth to invest there.Is it will be a long investment.How much will be development charges one has to pay later on.Your guidance regarding above will be highly appreciated.Regards
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(50541)
Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:50 PM PST 

dear brothers,

what is scope of DHA Vally in coming months?Is there any progress for development?

please need expert advise.

AKJ replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 02:22 AM PST 

Mr. Umer
just see advertisement # 56306 of this disscussion.
u'll get detals.
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(50538)
Sunday, November 27, 2011 07:22 PM PST 
About Engineers Town

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I recently visited Engineers Town Lahore it looks ok as I am buying two canal plot there.
Can some expert can throw light on Engineers town including with reseidential point of view and its approach prospect from khayaban-e-Jinnah that when this road is expected to connect with Engineers town?

Thanks in advance

AG replied on Sunday, November 27, 2011 09:24 PM PST 

@Naeem.

1. Valancia is already connected to Khayaban e Jinnah by 2.5km long 150 ft wide road.
2. I am not much aware of the road works in TIP (which is next to IEP towards Valancia) but understand that some development work is going on in TIP. Other societies between TIP & Valancia are reasonably developing.
3. The day IEP will be connected to Khayaban e Jinnah via TIP/Valancia IEP will be a Great Society to live.
4. So go ahead for a 2 Kanal Plot in IEP. Good Luck.

Rgards.

Headliner replied on Sunday, November 27, 2011 09:34 PM PST 

TIP is on the other side of Defence road the road starts from khayaban -e-jinnah(Entrance Of Valencia and Few other Societies) and ends at the gate of valencia on main defence road infront of TIP society which is now known as Khayaban-e-Amin.IEP is on Main Defence road next to Neskpak Society.

AG replied on Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:06 PM PST 

TIP has land besides Khayaban e Amin & IEP as well. If you check the LRE map for TIP you will note that TIP starts just after the IEP towards Valancia (other societies are Nespak2, Audit & Accounts, Nashaman e Iqbal2, Naz Town etc. I am talking of this part of TIP. I own a 1 Kanal plot in TIP & when I went to their office a couple of years ago they refered to this map.

Pl. correct me If I am wrong. Pl
update, if any brother is aware, of any development works in this part of TIP.

Regards.

Naeem replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 01:06 AM PST 

Thanks AG and Khan Sb
Firing range is at college road I guess. It means we may consider both.options either from valencia via TIP and other from college road and if any of them is constructed then approach shall be good enough.
I also intend to construct house after 2 years and till then hopefully any of the approach from khayabane jinaah via valencia to tip or or college road shall be operative?

Thanks all of your valuable suggestions
Regards
Naeem

Mian replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 09:16 PM PST 

I bought 2-Kannal plot in IEP in July-2100. It seems a reasonable society and good future prospects. Tell me where in Lahore U can buy 2 Kanal plot for 30- 40 laks price. DHA is like 2 crore....Hahaha. EME 1.5 Crores. Does brand name matters? Once fully developed IEP will be as good as all other socities. Its only 10 minute drive from Raiwind road.

Mian replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 09:18 PM PST 

Sorry there is Typo. July 2011

AG replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 09:48 PM PST 

Dear Mian Sb. I visited IEP in December 2009. I agree with you that it is a well developed society. By the way what is the price of a 2 Kanal plot in IEP these days.

Regards.

saba replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:26 AM PST 

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AG replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 02:37 AM PST 

@Fuad.

I will look for TIP Tel. No. in my file. However I am not sure whether it will be correct or not because I booked my plot in TIP about quarter of a century ago.
Regards.
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(50537)
Sunday, November 27, 2011 07:17 PM PST 
500 Sq.Yards plot in DHA 2 Islamabad

Dear property gurus,

I working in KSA, Riyadh and planning to buy a 1 Kanal plot in DHA phase 2, Islamabad. I have few queries and need some expert views on these,
1. Which Sector is better in DHA 2 (A,B,C, etc.)?
2. What is recent price range of 1 kanal plot there?
3. Last but not the least why prices in DHA2 have fallen drastically over the past few years and will this trend continue in future too?

Thanks in advance.

Qureshi replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 12:40 PM PST 

Go for heighted and sun facing plot in any sector and will cost you around 50 to 55 lac and corner plots around 55 to 60 lac.
Prices will not go down further rather staying consistant in last 3 years. Cheers

DHA-2 replied on Monday, November 28, 2011 04:40 PM PST 

Dear BM
In DHA-2, filling is a serious problem!
Go for the old and experienced property agents who are there n the market when DHA-2 started and they have been witnessing since then.
The filled plot will cost you a fortune to make it proper for building house!

SI replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 01:39 AM PST 

Dear Qureshi Sahib

I think plot direction as under, priority wise :

1- North facing
2- South facing
3- Sun facing
4- West facing

But you have recommended sun facing plot,please correct me as I am in a process of buying plot

Thanks & regards

AG replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 02:41 AM PST 

South facing plots are considered the best.

Regards

Qureshi replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:27 AM PST 

Well not much difference in Sun facing and South facing, both are almost the same. My point was don't go for North facing plots. Reasons is bad ventilation and no sun for your front lawn.

Khan replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 01:26 PM PST 

Guys,

Please shed some lights on power lines going through DHA.

Thanks

BM replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 04:33 PM PST 

Thank you for the kind advice. I have a budget of 30-35 lac and have to decide between sector D of DHA-2 and DHA2 -Ext(EX-commoners Town). Please advise in this regard whether its better to buy the plot located in sector D along the boundry (street 6,7 etc.) or to buy plot in extention (sector BC). Price wise they are almost same and within my budget. My objective is to keep the plot for next 3-5 years for investment purpose.

Qureshi replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 05:58 PM PST 

BM,

Keep in mind plot non-utilization charges in DHA-2 are 10,000RS per year and sector D is on low ground. If you wana build home, go for 10 marla heighted plot in any good sector otherwise investment in extension is better option.

khan from canada replied on Monday, December 5, 2011 03:23 PM PST 

BM

try checking the map of DHA-2 ex-commoners @ http://www.forcesestate.com/active/viewmap.asp?cid=9&aid=122&mapt=DHAI Phase II Extension&ref=2&map=AL_104.jpg
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